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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. deen-chan‏ @sir_deenicus 12 Dec 2018
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      to be much stronger than to positivity, the kind of personality that thrives will accept any kind of attention. Others will simply give up. The resulting feedback cycle makes negativity fitter, spread better.

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    2. deen-chan‏ @sir_deenicus 12 Dec 2018
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      I don't think awareness much figures into this. Some people (eg master trolls) might do this knowing full well their motivations and their addiction to reactions. Others might evaporate away, without caring to introspect much as to why participation was not enjoyable.

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    3. Liberté, égalité, anxiété‏ @MagpieMcGraw 12 Dec 2018
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      I've been thinking... what is self awareness? People use the phrase, and I kind of get what they mean, but what is it really? Is it awareness of the self? It seems to be that when people say self-aware, that's not exactly what they mean.

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Dec 2018
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      It means that you track what you are actually doing, and understand why you are doing it. (It’s a separate skill from being able to rationalize your actions. The difference manifests in your ability to control your behavior to do whatever you want.)

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    5. Liberté, égalité, anxiété‏ @MagpieMcGraw 12 Dec 2018
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      That's deep. I think when most people use the phrase, they mean "you're not aware of how I see you", meaning "you're being annoying and don't realize it". Which doesn't have to do with awareness of the self, but of others perceptions of one's self.

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    6. Liberté, égalité, anxiété‏ @MagpieMcGraw 12 Dec 2018
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      Does self awareness as you define it have a cost? Does your brain have to perform some sort of extra processing in order to be aware of the self? Why isn't self awareness automatic and always on?

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Dec 2018
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      There is no magical way by which something reveals its own nature to itself. You need to form the correct models first, and that’s a hard learning problem.

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    8. Liberté, égalité, anxiété‏ @MagpieMcGraw 12 Dec 2018
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      I have a hunch that it's not a one time thing. Like, you can't become aware of yourself and then stay aware. I imagine it would take a constant process to maintain it.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Dec 2018
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      It is not different from building awareness for your posture, or for the way you walk. You don’t need to pay constant attention once the model is in place.

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    10. Liberté, égalité, anxiété‏ @MagpieMcGraw 12 Dec 2018
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      To be honest, I'm not exactly sure what a self even is. It's an identity, is it? It must be a different thing from ones identity.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Dec 2018
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      Your identity is a fiction. Self awareness usually requires deconstructing your identity.

      11:33 AM - 12 Dec 2018 from Davis Square, Somerville
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        2. Liberté, égalité, anxiété‏ @MagpieMcGraw 12 Dec 2018
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          There are variables in my mind that govern how I make decisions, and they are very hard to overwrite by thinking. I would guess that the set of those variables(constants?) is what makes the self.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Dec 2018
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          Identifications measure the parameters of the world not absolutely but relative to an arbitrary target value. If you can choose that target value (or turn it off), you begin to have agency.

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