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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 6 Dec 2018
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      AI riddle: why is playing chess a solved problem, yet detecting porn is a huge mess, and autonomous driving still in beta, human safety drivers required, after decades of research?https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-porn-ai-adult-content/ …

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Dec 2018
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      I think that it is possible that the people that Verizon employs to make tumblr Apple store compliant within 2 months don't play in the same league as those that Google employs to solve Go within 2 years.

      5:16 PM - 6 Dec 2018 from Cambridge, MA
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        2. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 6 Dec 2018
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          Sorry @plinz, but that won’t cover the driverless car case.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Dec 2018
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          I think that solving driving is harder than solving chess, because it contains myriads of edge cases. The fact that humans often deal poorly with these edge cases as well does not excuse the AI in our eyes.

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        2. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 6 Dec 2018
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          Ie how much did Alphabet/Google pay Waymo employees?

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Dec 2018
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          If we were to pay AI critics better, I am not sure that AI criticism improves.

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        2. deen-chan‏ @sir_deenicus 6 Dec 2018
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          No, I doubt that's the core issue. A combination of closed (chess) vs open problem spaces & moravec paradox. Eg Alpha0 can't invent puzzles tailored to current player or tolerate small rule changes online.

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        3. deen-chan‏ @sir_deenicus 6 Dec 2018
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          In this specifically, I think it's more likely they're using an API than home-grown solution. Check: https://www.adityaananthram.com/comparison-of-the-best-nsfw-image-moderation-apis-2018/ …, see (overall) that even with small sample size (wrt all of tumblr), the best are still far from perfect.

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        1. Samer Sabri‏ @seriousssam 6 Dec 2018
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          + chess is much "narrower" -- not sure it's that much of a riddle

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