Are abstract entities Real scientifically speaking ( rationally)?
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Replying to @davidarredondo @lynz_h55
I don't think that platonism works. I think that only implementations can be real. We cannot observe the actual implementation of the universe however, but we can show that we can describe it as transitions between states of information. Our models are formed about information.
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Is mathematics an abstract entity ( independent of what it so accurately describes or predicts about the physical world)?
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Replying to @davidarredondo @lynz_h55
Mathematics is the domain of all formal languages. It is Hesse's "Glasperlenspiel". Mathematical objects exist in the same way as the Mandelbrot fractal: by picking a set of rules you can derive them, but they don't have an existence independently of the rules.
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So your position is that abstract entities are less real than say, physical objects?
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Replying to @davidarredondo @lynz_h55
Physical objects are encodings that we discover over observable patterns of information. Something real is generating the patterns. This underlying reality may be mathematical in nature, but the mathematical objects we think about construe a purely virtual domain.
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Can natural selection generate patterns?
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Replying to @davidarredondo @lynz_h55
Natural selection is a very successful model that we discovered to explain observed complexity.
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Surely you're not saying it exists because * we discovered it. Correct?
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Replying to @davidarredondo @lynz_h55
No, I am saying that it does not exist because it is a model.
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It exists in the sense that it is an abstract mathematical principle that indeed appears to be implemented in the physical universe. The theory itself exists inasmuch as it is implemented in our minds.
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