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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 26 Oct 2018
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      Some ideas are good and some are bad even if it is also true that if one wants to be appreciated for those ideas one must find a receptive audience.

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Oct 2018
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      Public success will depend on both identifying the correct direction, which may require going very deep yourself, and our ability to identify the next step on the path for the largest audience. If we are working at the boundary of our understanding, we will rarely be successful.

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    3. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 26 Oct 2018
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      Public success is a separate issue from whether an idea is objectively good or bad.

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Oct 2018
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      I just doubt that ideas can be good or bad. No matter how mind blowing an idea appears to us now, it will be trivial, boring and obvious to us a few steps of mental development later.

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    5. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 26 Oct 2018
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      Immunotherapy for eliminating cancer is a really good idea, for example. Drinking and driving is a bad idea.

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Oct 2018
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      If I were to write books about why it is a good idea to not combine drinking and driving, I'd probably waste everybody's time. It is a good idea in the normative sense, but a an utterly trivial idea in the intellectual sense.

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    7. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 26 Oct 2018
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      Words are just how the architecture of an idea is made visible. A great architect can hold an audience spellbound on almost any topic.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Oct 2018
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      If that were literally true, then all people would be attracted to all great ideas. Which is quite clearly not the case. In the competition of ideas, those that are immediately compatible with what the audience already thinks win. (This is not a condemnation of most audiences.)

      9:49 PM - 26 Oct 2018 from Cambridge, MA
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        2. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 26 Oct 2018
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          Some subset of people who have a reason to pay attention are attracted to great ideas with which they come into contact if they are willing and able to see the greatness in them.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Oct 2018
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          I suspect that no idea has intrinsic greatness. The greatness is just apparent from looking at it while standing in its foothills, and it disappears when you recognize it as a foothill to some much more dramatic range of peaks, and it does not seem to end so far.

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        1. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 26 Oct 2018
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          The competition of ideas doesn't always correspond to the ideas being objectively good or bad. Sometimes (usually) people just like the way an idea makes them feel, and they don't investigate any further.

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