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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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      A belief in God is functionally different from a belief in, say, evolutionary theory. The former actually implements God on the brain of the faithful, as a piece of software with a well-defined spec and write access to the mental universe generator, so miracles may happen.

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    2. Michael Mayer‏ @lastzero 25 Oct 2018
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      How's that different from the belief in mathematical axioms?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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      God is generated from a bunch of axioms that make him functionally the idea that the cell should have about its parent organism. God can have access to your reward function and even your perceptual content.

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    4. Michael Mayer‏ @lastzero 25 Oct 2018
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      Our perception can be heavily influenced by the belief in boolean logic. Science good. Faith bad. You see the paradox?

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    5. Robert Janda‏ @RJsnda 25 Oct 2018
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      Human being and God partially share their destinies (C.G.Jung). Miracle is in the direct interest of both, I guess. Evolution is ruthless and actually, it is not “close" to human brain.

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    6. Michael Mayer‏ @lastzero 25 Oct 2018
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      I don't get why having faith means waiting for a miracle. My faith is that there are no miracles (proof it!) whereas I know some scientists who are waiting for a miracle. Evolution is not really undecidable, like climate change. God is undecidable.

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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      A miracle is an event that is incompatible with physics but can be experienced. The best explanation of a miracle is that is an event that plays out in your mind. (As all the others do to.)

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    8. Michael Mayer‏ @lastzero 25 Oct 2018
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      How do you know for sure it's incompatible with physics? Wondering if you're frustrated by the political situation or if you never liked religion? I say whatever works. Choose your starting point but don't forget the feedback loop.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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      I think the main hypothesis of physics is that the universe can be entirely described on a lowest causally closed layer. This means that the universe is mechanical (for a sufficiently general definition of machine), and not a conspiracy.

      6:51 PM - 25 Oct 2018
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        2. Michael Mayer‏ @lastzero 25 Oct 2018
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          Didn't really answer my questions. Quantum mechanics can indeed seem like a conspiracy. And any form of reality and causality is a construction of our brain. That's why it's good to do a bit of deconstruction from time to time. Opens your mind for incompatible insights.

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        3. Robert Janda‏ @RJsnda 25 Oct 2018
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          🙂.

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        1. Robert Janda‏ @RJsnda 25 Oct 2018
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          Exactly. This is the way I am thinking about the world - including performance of our brain which is the part of it.

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