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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 24 Oct 2018
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      I don't think I know a single person that actually uses the word "nips" to denote female anatomy. I wonder if the NIPS renaming debate goes back to a misunderstanding, where women assume that men secretly use that word to talk about them, and men assume that other, bad men do?

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    2. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 24 Oct 2018
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      I know of several such people.

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    3. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 25 Oct 2018
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      (And I say so with regret...but remember I went to college with many who became fighter pilots, and now I live on the beach where surfer dude culture has its presence.)

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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      Is "fighter pilot" a euphemism for people who have testosterone, i.e bad ones?

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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      I know, but why is the fact that someone becomes a fighter pilot predictive for using words in ways that would require renaming machine learning conferences?

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    7. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 25 Oct 2018
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      there's a lot to unpack -- you'd noted you did not know of anyone who used the acronym in a sexualized way -- I offered alternative evidence -- i clarified my context; i never said it was predictive, but there is a correlation

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    8. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 25 Oct 2018
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      cycling back to the naming of the conference my point is that there do exist people who use that acronym in a sexualized way and ergo why I signed the petition recommending its renaming it may not bother you, i respect that; but I know it bothers some, and that's enough for me

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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      Yes, I am grateful for the evidence, which I was unaware of! On a different level, I agree with you that the name should be changed if a majority of people thinks it should. Which was not the case (the question was not "does it disturb you" but "should it be changed").

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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Oct 2018
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          Often people act not on what they find problematic, but on what they think others may find problematic, even if almost nobody actually does.

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        3. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 25 Oct 2018
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          i agree; PC taken to the limit is problematic. but in this case, i see leaders in the AI space such as Dean and Goodenough voting for change, and I value their point of view. by and large, the computing community has not been welcoming to women (see @histoftech)

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        1. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 25 Oct 2018
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          understood. but remember also the gender distribution of those who attend the conference and were able to vote...this is a great example of the problem of the tyranny of the majority

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