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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 21 Oct 2018
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      While I can reliably know that I am not a genius, I can never fully be sure that I am not an idiot.

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    2. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Oct 2018
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      All hairless monkeys ARE idiots, no? Given the infinity of what we don't know and how much we think we know that we don't and the staggering amount of misunderstanding that currently passes as legitimate? I KNOW I'm an idiot. That's about ALL I know.

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    3. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Oct 2018
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      BTW I've studied directly with 5 Nobel Laureates in disparate * endeavors/fields*. Not ONE believed in * Genius*.

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 21 Oct 2018
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      Incidentally, it seems smart to recognize that there is a lot of upside for a smart person in denying that they think of themselves as geniuses and publicly dismiss the concept altogether. I also hear that Nobel Laureates are very smart.

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    5. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Oct 2018
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      Yes they were smart but not particularly smarter than many around them who didn't work as hard, long, & consistently. Btw thier denial of genius was both private and shared by folks w/out Nobels. I think they were signalling that called * genius* is earned not bestowed.

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 21 Oct 2018
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      Wittgenstein is a good counterexample. Genius is characterized by identifying the most important problem, and the best way to make progress on it. Busywork signals absence of genius. The Nobel is usually not given for a lifetime achievement of data entry.

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    7. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 21 Oct 2018
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      I think sincerity was a very salient characteristic of Wittgenstein. Also he worked his ass off! Over a long period of time. As did Russell et al.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 21 Oct 2018
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      Wittgenstein wrote his most significant contribution very early in his career (which was mostly outside of philosophy). I think that Russell was a very gifted writer, and he even had a couple original insights, but he did not connect the dots in ways that others did not.

      9:30 PM - 21 Oct 2018 from Cambridge, MA
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        2. human evolution‏ @davidarredondo 22 Oct 2018
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          I love/admire early Wittgnstn but don't you agree he tried MANY things and *failed* at many until he settled down to hard work of rework? You keep pointing to extremely hard work saying that maybe exists genius without it? Isn't that a cop out for those w/out discipline?

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 22 Oct 2018
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          No. It is generally not possible to deliver an exceptional result without prolonged deep immersion and focus. But it also requires luck, and often serendipity and an extraordinary combination of circumstances outside of your control. And note the age at which breakthroughs happen

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