The ultimate value is another being who can create freely. This is why scripture always posits us as God's children—we are intended to grow up and bring about new possibilities and new life.
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Replying to @micahtredding @bierlingm and
Ok this is rough, and somewhat hastily penned by me last summer... but curious if it relates to this conversation: http://www.metanoiamemo.com/2017/06/trauma-threats-virtue-and-ai-in-cloud.html?m=1 …
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Replying to @luke_dawgfan @micahtredding and
Minds don't naturally want anything, not even survival or quiescence. The reward function is always an external imposition, and eventually the question is (for natural and artificial minds) whether it is more difficult for the mind to get the reward or to hack its reward system.
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Replying to @Plinz @luke_dawgfan and
Then maybe a pure artificial mind without external impositions is more natural than a "natural" mind driven by artificial desire and aversion.
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Replying to @RitaJKing @Plinz and
Semantics. What a mind naturally wants is in question; not what an artificial intelligence wants. Having meditated on this I'm desirous (pun intended) to get the primary level here. ?? redux: what does a mind (a person's consciousness) orient towards? (as a precursor to desire)
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Replying to @luke_dawgfan @Plinz and
And to what extent, and by what means, can the orientation shift through deliberate effort?
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Replying to @RitaJKing @luke_dawgfan and
I found that if I dissociate from desire there is only things playing out, and if I also dissociate from the attention to these things, everything becomes quiet. Jeffery Martin has a study on enduring enlightenment states ("PNSE") suggesting we can shift and fixate deliberately.
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Replying to @Plinz @RitaJKing and
Are you much of a follower of Martin’s work on PNSE?
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Replying to @noself86 @RitaJKing and
I have only read the original study, but he said he is working on a longer book?
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I am familiar with the states, but only temporarily.
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