I am constructing a broad view from narrow detail.
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Replying to @Plinz
But, in case you don't think I appreciate you, I should point out that you know more about those three oak trees than I ever could. <3
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Replying to @thewiseturtle
That is not the issue. It is just that you seem to think that tree, forest and green refer to roughly the same thing, and then use them to talk about clouds.
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Replying to @Plinz
I see how things nest, in sets within sets. So, yes, it's easy for me to see how a green thing is part of a tree, which is part of a forest, which is a cloud of life.
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Replying to @thewiseturtle
At the same time, you don't understand the actual content of my words, and don't even seem to notice that.
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Replying to @Plinz
Which is why I ask you to clarify your meaning. So that I can translate your words into what makes sense to me. But there's no way for you to understand what I understand, since you don't understand what I see.
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Replying to @thewiseturtle
I don’t think that you mentally represent the structural relationships that I talk about. Hence my words cannot have a referent, so communication is difficult.
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Replying to @Plinz
We never fully experience reality. But we do our best to find valuable things from what we are offered by reality. I discover a lot of fascinating stuff by trying to understand you.
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Replying to @thewiseturtle
To be part of reality, something needs to be real, no? Since you can only experience the content of the models created in your mind, you cannot experience reality.
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Replying to @Plinz
What creates the models in my mind, though? (If not reality.)
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What makes it so hard to understand that while every map needs to be drawn in some territory, the depictions of the map are not real? You are saying that every map is only a little bit territory, and thus you keep missing the point.
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Replying to @Plinz
Nothing makes it hard to understand what that the map is not the territory. But the map must be real or it wouldn't exist. It's a fiction, relative to the outside reality, but what else would it be if it weren't a part of reality. Maps are real, in and of themselves.
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