the genetic engineering you're talking about would only accelerate some of the natural consequences of improved nutrition and pediatric medicine (and possibly assortative mating)
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
it does bring to mind an interesting thought experiment about how much an order of magnitude difference in pace of acceleration would matter though. probably quite a lot.
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Replying to @danlistensto
Yeah. Think of it concretely - say 50,000 people each have at least one kid engineered to have an IQ 6SD higher than von Neumann. The kids form a community. What would they honestly think of we schlubs?
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Replying to @PereGrimmer @danlistensto
And, spot on re accelerating assortative mating; but I think it has the potential to be qualitatively different due to the potential for a shift of very high magnitude not subject to noise.
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Replying to @PereGrimmer
i honestly can't imagine a person with an IQ double that of Von Neumann, who was already a few steps past the line of "can interact with normals without friction" by most accounts. I wonder what the upper cognitive limit actually is. What kind of enhancements are possible?
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
Perhaps there's a limit for biological brains without cryptographically secured reward systems: at some point the mind becomes too smart to be blackmailed by the organism to regulate its affairs.
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Replying to @Plinz @PereGrimmer
can you expand on that? how would you secure a brain's reward functions? in a computer system we'd be looking at message integrity and code injection vulnerabilities. does the brain have analogous functional structures? afaik we have no idea what the mechanism really is.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
If a human mind realizes the relevance of hacking its reward function, it may chose to lock itself into the cell of a monastery for a couple decades and let go of whatever it wants. I don't think that we evolved protections (like guilt, shame, boredom, love) against that.
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The problem is not so much performing illegal operations, but realizing that you are a piece of software, and that all your problems will go away if you change a few bytes. Smart people often know that. It is inevitable that a super-human-level intelligent mind figures it out.
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Replying to @Plinz @danlistensto
I don't think that follows; the geniuses I'm aware of have not all elected to become Buddhist monks or lotus-eaters. But that could be a selection effect.
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Survivorship bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias#/media/File:Survivorship-bias.png …
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Replying to @Plinz @danlistensto
I noted that possibility, but the issue is there are no cases I'm aware of to support your turn-on tune-out drop-out theory. Further, if judged socially undesirable, the tendency to elect that course could itself plausibly be gene-engineered away.
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*tune-in
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