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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Sep 2018
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      Joscha Bach Retweeted Experimental Philos

      Neuroscience is where scientists look at neurons and fail to figure out the mind. Neurophilosophy is where philosophers look at neuroscience and fail to figure out how to figure out the mind.https://twitter.com/xphilosopher/status/1039190194195521537 …

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      Experimental Philos @xphilosopher
      New paper looks to what happened with the "neurophilosophy" movement to make a prediction about what will happen to experimental philosophy. The prediction: ever more in the way of technical sophistication, ever less in the way of revolutionary rhetoric https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09515089.2018.1512705 … pic.twitter.com/K60bhkO9bX
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    2. RichardDorset‏ @richarddorset 10 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz

      Any answers. Views on 'downward causation'?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @richarddorset

      Causality is a mode of description where different systems influence each other’s evolution through a shared interface. Mind and brain exist in different descriptive frames however.

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    4. RichardDorset‏ @richarddorset 10 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz

      But not independent frames...

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @richarddorset

      The brain is a description that is causally closed against mental events (unless you let mental events such as the decision to down a glass of scotch affect the neurochemistry).

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    6. RichardDorset‏ @richarddorset 10 Sep 2018
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      🤔🤔 🤔🤔 Ps. I believe in some form of extended mind or scaffolded mind. Maybe these might be consistent with your 'whisky' analogy, but at a finer grain. #feedbackloops

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @richarddorset

      The mind is entirely generated by the brain. I think the extended mind hypothesis is built on a category mistake. The world you perceive is a VR produced by the neocortex.

      12:28 PM - 10 Sep 2018 from Mission Hill, Boston
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        2. RichardDorset‏ @richarddorset 11 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @Plinz

          But how can mind be generated by the brain alone, and yet you say "The brain is a description that is causally closed against mental events."

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @richarddorset

          The weather is generated by the dynamics of molecules in the atmosphere, but the molecular dynamics are a description that is causally closed against weather events. You will never need to talk about the weather when you try to understand what the molecules are doing.

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