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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 18 Jul 2018
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      You think sexual selection theory isn't a good explanation of behavioral sex differences?

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    2. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf 18 Jul 2018
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      It's a good explanation for non-humans. But explaining differences in human behaviour via genes quickly runs counter to human universality.

      10 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
    3. God's Ventriloquist‏ @godsven3loquist 18 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf @primalpoly

      How is this distinguishable from blank slate hypotheses @SamHarrisOrg

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    4. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf 18 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @godsven3loquist @primalpoly @SamHarrisOrg

      In the same way as with actual slates. Saying their present content need not depend on previous content is not the same as saying they were initially blank, or initially identical.

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    5. Carlos De la Guardia‏ @dela3499 18 Jul 2018
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      Pinker was right to say the Blank Slate is wrong, but so is the Immutable Slate, which claims we cannot change our inborn dispositions.

      1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 18 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @dela3499 @EvanOLeary and

      The ratio of genetic determination vs susceptibility to environmental adaptation is probably variable and entirely genetically determined.

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    7. Carlos De la Guardia‏ @dela3499 18 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @EvanOLeary and

      That’s true for most aspects of our bodies (e.g. muscle mass & skin tone), but genes don’t determine the scope of human thought - except by making it universal.

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 18 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @dela3499 @EvanOLeary and

      What makes you so sure that this has to be true? There are probably conditions under which a degree of innately enforced groupthink would have adaptive benefits for the group, and I don't think that it is impossible to encode tendencies for that genetically.

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    9. Carlos De la Guardia‏ @dela3499 18 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @EvanOLeary and

      Suppose that’s true. What happens when somebody, a mutant perhaps, points out the groupthink about an idea? Presumably human brains can represent variants of that idea. What, other than an irrational *culture*, could prevent them from adopting such a variant?

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    10. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @dela3499 @EvanOLeary and

      Like differences in height, having different kinds of minds is a normal part of population diversity. However, history is full of purges of intellectuals, infidels (and their offspring) etc. especially when rulers wanted to breed more collectivist or docile societies.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jul 2018
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      It seems that most people have to difficulty to accept irrational beliefs when presented by high ranking ingroup members (especially in childhood and adolescence) and to stick to them, even when presented with clear evidence to the contrary. That has obvious adaptive value.

      1:49 AM - 19 Jul 2018 from Germany
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        2. Evan O'Leary‏ @EvanOLeary 19 Jul 2018
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          You two seem to both agree on the difference between hard changes and impossible changes and just seem to disagree because you're stressing different things

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jul 2018
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          I think that homo sapiens is not so successful because we are more intelligent than other hominids, but because we sacrificed universality for programmability. It happened via mutations that bias the mind towards authoritarian groupthink ("normies") and against rationality.

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