Skip to content
By using Twitter’s services you agree to our Cookies Use. We and our partners operate globally and use cookies, including for analytics, personalisation, and ads.

This is the legacy version of twitter.com. We will be shutting it down on June 1, 2020. Please switch to a supported browser, or disable the extension which masks your browser. You can see a list of supported browsers in our Help Center.

  • Home Home Home, current page.
  • About

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Language: English
    • Bahasa Indonesia
    • Bahasa Melayu
    • Català
    • Čeština
    • Dansk
    • Deutsch
    • English UK
    • Español
    • Filipino
    • Français
    • Hrvatski
    • Italiano
    • Magyar
    • Nederlands
    • Norsk
    • Polski
    • Português
    • Română
    • Slovenčina
    • Suomi
    • Svenska
    • Tiếng Việt
    • Türkçe
    • Ελληνικά
    • Български език
    • Русский
    • Српски
    • Українська мова
    • עִבְרִית
    • العربية
    • فارسی
    • मराठी
    • हिन्दी
    • বাংলা
    • ગુજરાતી
    • தமிழ்
    • ಕನ್ನಡ
    • ภาษาไทย
    • 한국어
    • 日本語
    • 简体中文
    • 繁體中文
  • Have an account? Log in
    Have an account?
    · Forgot password?

    New to Twitter?
    Sign up
Plinz's profile
Joscha Bach
Joscha Bach
Joscha Bach
@Plinz

Tweets

Joscha Bach

@Plinz

FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

San Francisco, CA
bach.ai
Joined April 2009

Tweets

  • © 2020 Twitter
  • About
  • Help Center
  • Terms
  • Privacy policy
  • Imprint
  • Cookies
  • Ads info
Dismiss
Previous
Next

Go to a person's profile

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @

Promote this Tweet

Block

  • Tweet with a location

    You can add location information to your Tweets, such as your city or precise location, from the web and via third-party applications. You always have the option to delete your Tweet location history. Learn more

    Your lists

    Create a new list


    Under 100 characters, optional

    Privacy

    Copy link to Tweet

    Embed this Tweet

    Embed this Video

    Add this Tweet to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Add this video to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Hmm, there was a problem reaching the server.

    By embedding Twitter content in your website or app, you are agreeing to the Twitter Developer Agreement and Developer Policy.

    Preview

    Why you're seeing this ad

    Log in to Twitter

    · Forgot password?
    Don't have an account? Sign up »

    Sign up for Twitter

    Not on Twitter? Sign up, tune into the things you care about, and get updates as they happen.

    Sign up
    Have an account? Log in »

    Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes:

    Country Code For customers of
    United States 40404 (any)
    Canada 21212 (any)
    United Kingdom 86444 Vodafone, Orange, 3, O2
    Brazil 40404 Nextel, TIM
    Haiti 40404 Digicel, Voila
    Ireland 51210 Vodafone, O2
    India 53000 Bharti Airtel, Videocon, Reliance
    Indonesia 89887 AXIS, 3, Telkomsel, Indosat, XL Axiata
    Italy 4880804 Wind
    3424486444 Vodafone
    » See SMS short codes for other countries

    Confirmation

     

    Welcome home!

    This timeline is where you’ll spend most of your time, getting instant updates about what matters to you.

    Tweets not working for you?

    Hover over the profile pic and click the Following button to unfollow any account.

    Say a lot with a little

    When you see a Tweet you love, tap the heart — it lets the person who wrote it know you shared the love.

    Spread the word

    The fastest way to share someone else’s Tweet with your followers is with a Retweet. Tap the icon to send it instantly.

    Join the conversation

    Add your thoughts about any Tweet with a Reply. Find a topic you’re passionate about, and jump right in.

    Learn the latest

    Get instant insight into what people are talking about now.

    Get more of what you love

    Follow more accounts to get instant updates about topics you care about.

    Find what's happening

    See the latest conversations about any topic instantly.

    Never miss a Moment

    Catch up instantly on the best stories happening as they unfold.

    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation

      I forgot that most people are not so surprisingly unafraid of AI because they somehow think it is not dangerous to share the planet with a species that is more intelligent than your own, but because they still cannot imagine that it will happen.

      12 replies 8 retweets 39 likes
    2. Jprwg‏ @jprwg 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @Plinz

      I'm just not at all convinced intelligence works like this implies it does - that is, the smartest person wins, and everyone else stands around being useless - rather than it aggregating almost linearly. I just don't know. How do you know? (Do you know?)

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Napalm Sushi‏ @NapalmSushi 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @jprwg @Plinz

      That only holds if you confine your comparisons to human individuals. Within humanity, the smartest person indeed doesn't always win. Within the global biosphere, the smartest SPECIES has utterly cleaned house.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @NapalmSushi @jprwg

      From the perspective of every other primate species, human intelligence is an uncontrollable weapon of mass destruction. Under which conditions should we treat the research efforts into superhuman artificial intelligence as careless experimentation with an extinction risk?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Jprwg‏ @jprwg 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @Plinz @NapalmSushi

      Ok, but I'm not a primate species, I'm a primate, as are you. From my perspective, almost the entire world is out of my control. The question is: what does 1000x human intelligence imply? More "can dominate humanity 1000x over" or "can substitute for 1000x humans"?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @jprwg @NapalmSushi

      Our intelligence does not scale well, because brains cannot grow much larger, childhoods (= initial training periods) cannot be much extended, and communication between minds is limited. There is no obvious comparable limit for an electronic brain. One may outsmart all of us.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Jprwg‏ @jprwg 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @Plinz @NapalmSushi

      But what does "outsmart" imply?? Are you sure it implies what you're implying it implies?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Jprwg‏ @jprwg 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @jprwg @Plinz @NapalmSushi

      The image "outsmart" suggests to me is a line of humans all queuing up to try to beat the superintelligence at a game of chess or similar. "Damn, that was out smartest guy, & he was still hopelessly outmatched!" I'm not not at all convinced that's how aggregate capability works.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @jprwg @NapalmSushi

      Imagine that one of the first scalable general problem solvers is a corporate intelligence that is tasked with gaming financial markets (what we euphemistically call "trading"), it might turn out that there is no way we can stop it before it totally obliterates the world economy.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Jprwg‏ @jprwg 17 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @Plinz @NapalmSushi

      Uh, maybe? How do returns to financial trading work today? Is it the case that the team w/ the smartest person gets most of the gains & the rest get little? If not, why wld the AI do better than a team(s) of people equal in no. to the no. of times smarter than human the AI is?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 18 Jul 2018
      • Report Tweet
      • Report NetzDG Violation
      Replying to @jprwg @NapalmSushi

      Trading gains depend on exploiting arbitrage opportunities. The best arbitrary opportunities depend on zero day attacks on existing financial ecosystems, like Soros hacking the pound. If you are a hedge fund, you can reinvest your gains into bidding for the best quants.

      1:15 AM - 18 Jul 2018
      0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes

      Loading seems to be taking a while.

      Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.

        Promoted Tweet

        false

        • © 2020 Twitter
        • About
        • Help Center
        • Terms
        • Privacy policy
        • Imprint
        • Cookies
        • Ads info