I wonder how it would change society if our language didn't have any normative language in it ("People should do X"), and instead we were forced to rely on conditional predictions ("If people do X, I predict Y will happen")
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Replying to @juliagalef
You mean we get zapped or something if we use normative language? Or we just forgot the words? If latter, circumlocution/coining/adaptation of other words -> new normative words ASAP
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Replying to @simplic10 @juliagalef
No, she just suggests zapping the normies until they behave
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Or rather: if normies could be stopped from imposing beliefs without priors, society would be negotiated via incentives and rational arguments.
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Replying to @Plinz @juliagalef
This would totally stunt much of our social technology. Normative statements are not in general replaceable with an equivalent but "less spooky" descriptive one
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Also it's not very easy to tell what is & isn't normative. Even a statement like "the bathroom is that way" is built on shared understanding of goals, efficiency, etc. It has values baked in. (You wouldn't typically say it about a non-functioning bathroom, eg).
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In case of the bathroom the priors are easy to deduce. The difference to nerds is not that goals and utility are not inferred, but that conformance has to be justifiable, ie it is not the default.
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