Wishing that were not so will not bring about change; it seems to me that first understanding and accepting the gender divide and the forces that led to it are essential to change, a change that will likely take generations.
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Also, please consider the context of this thread. Ms Mensch
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Replying to @Grady_Booch @Plinz
But anecdote is not evidence. I gave the example of pilots as an analogy. There is no field, including aviation, where women have not “made a significant contribution” and yet the numbers are not the same, not close, and are never likely to become close.
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The things that keep women in low numbers in computing isn’t the thought process required or anything like that. Part of it has been that you used to feel like you had to work 60 hour weeks, part of it is you can’t sit out for a few years and easily come back cause tech moves on
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That makes it hard on women who want to have a family. And part of it is, at some companies, the culture can be aboys club. But the work itself...you’re just issuing instructions to a computer in languages that look increasingly English like.
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There needs to be more than just 20-30 year old white and Asian dudes writing it, because software isn’t just used by 20-30 year old white and Asian dudes. It’s used by everyone. The people writing it have a heavy hand in how it comes out.
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I very respectfully suggest that you check if "dudes" may contain a sexist stereotype. Most software is written by slightly autistic men and women, with autistic men outnumbering autistic women 5:1. Most UX design is done by non-autistic women and men, with women at >50%.
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Oh no, by "dudes" I meant men. My whole point is there should be more diversity in the people writing software because the people who are use it and are affected by it are diverse. I've never seen that autism assertion.
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By the way, do you feel that the gender disparity in psychology and education (which mirrors the one in stem) may be the result of an environment that is unwelcoming and sexist against men?
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Oh, I would expect there are gender stereotypes that cause that. Those are “nurturing” careers. Same thing with nursing. Therapists and teachers also tend to be underpaid.
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How would you measure the impact of stereotypes vs. innate motivational traits? What do you make of the Norwegian gender paradox, for instance?
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