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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jun 2018
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      None of the current visions for AI X risk mitigation have a chance to prevent things from going wrong, or stopping them once they start going wrong. (Thus holds true regardless of what probability you assign to an apocalyptic AI scenario.)

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jun 2018
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      Technically what I said is incorrect. I am simply unaware of any current solution or perspective on a solution to AI alignment or AI boxing that I consider to have a good chance of working. Perhaps someone knows one, or finds one soon. But it will surprise me.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @MimeticValue @ESYudkowsky

      The good news is that we were doomed all along. Nobody can be saved. We can only postpone death.

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    4. Agni‏ @agnisight 14 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @MimeticValue @ESYudkowsky

      AI even at current stage isn't at a point where the machines truly understand the information we give them - most machine learning algorithms today are still glorified curve fitting algorithms, the human brain operates at multiple exascale - humans are still the gatekeepers

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    5. Agni‏ @agnisight 14 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @MimeticValue @Plinz @ESYudkowsky

      There is already risk today with rogue viruses, but those threats can still be mitigated by counter measures i.e. there is always another side - with every virus one can make one can make an equivalently powerful security measure to prevent such virus

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @agnisight @MimeticValue @ESYudkowsky

      Sometimes its tempting to think that organized religions took over the rational societies of the west for the same reason Chinese emperors beheaded tinkerers that became too inquisitive. Unfettered rationality creates powerful tools that fools will use to call demons.

      6:02 PM - 14 Jun 2018 from Cambridge, MA
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        2. Agni‏ @agnisight 14 Jun 2018
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          Agreed, there already exist powerful self-modifying computer worms (Stuxnet an example from 2012) these tools in themselves although not sentient in anyway still pose a significant threat with the world relying evermore on connected systems

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @agnisight @MimeticValue @ESYudkowsky

          This is really not the kind of thing that I am concerned about in this context.

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