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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 13 Jun 2018
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      The intuition that machines cannot be as ethical as humans is likely incorrect. Ethics is the systematic resolution of conflicts of interest under conditions of shared purpose. Ethics is not irrational. There is no reason to assume that machines cannot be more ethical than us.

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    2. Tim‏ @tymwol 13 Jun 2018
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      The arguments made e.g. by Nick Bostrom is rather that they could lack deeper understanding of their actions, consequences and have different priories (produce paperclips at all costs), what possibly leads to rational but unethical actions.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 13 Jun 2018
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      Interesting question. Do you think that "autistic AI", i.e. an AI that only optimizes for a low level reward function, will outperform "sustainable AI", i.e. one that maximizes its expectation horizon?

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    4. Lucio Martelli‏ @LucioMM1 13 Jun 2018
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      It happens all the time in human power struggles, with sociopaths getting up the ladder in companies and governments. Why should it be different for AIs?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 13 Jun 2018
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      That is the general problem of governance: how can you expect someone to design the incentive architecture for society if they don't understand their own incentives? And how can you expect those that best understand their own incentives to be altruistic governors?

      12:20 PM - 13 Jun 2018
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        2. Lucio Martelli‏ @LucioMM1 13 Jun 2018
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          In a simple hawk/dove model it's pretty clear that the best strategy is to change between being a dove or a hawk depending on circumstances. That's the opposite of ethics. I am not sure why you think ethical behaviour is maximizing for agents in general competition.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 13 Jun 2018
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          For the most part, we live groups in which the cost of violence dramatically exceeds its possible benefits, so we share the purpose of avoiding violence with most members of society, for instance.

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