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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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      That is not a bad quota for someone who thinks a lot. I suspect that you focus on being a publicist more than on being a philosopher?

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Jun 2018
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      Now you’re just insulting me 😂😂😂

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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      That was not my intention. I am not prescriptive, I am just trying to understand your motivation.

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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      I noticed that I prize meaning over relevance. Relevance is backed up by the promise of an actual, material reward. Since I don't seem to see the value of actual rewards (why should I strive for them?), I appear to need a transcendental, terminal reward anticipation.

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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      From my perspective, your thinking often appears to stop two steps before the actual summit, and then take off in a different direction. That does not mean that this is objectively true, but perhaps that I measure the height of the reward landscape differently.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Jun 2018
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      I’m fine with that perception of my behavior/thinking 🙂

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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      That is both pleasing and disturbing to me, naturally.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Jun 2018
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      It is empirically accurate, modulo a sort of optical illusion that doesn’t matter, and a bit of projection, which is 10x better than most people ever understand anyone. You’d be able to predict my actions pretty well with that model. Probably only need a small shell script 😆

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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      Oh, no! That was not an understanding of how you operate, only a characterization of the observation, which results from projecting your actions on my own surface. I don't yet see WHY you seem to stop and deviate, for which I possibly need a meta-perspective.

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Jun 2018
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      I’m flattered and amused that anyone cares to deconstruct my thinking at all. That kind of attention is generally reserved for the Trumps, Petersons and Einsteins. Now if I could get a dozen more people trying to figure out my 8d chess, things could get very interesting 🤔

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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      The reason for the lack of interest of the crowds in your mortal toil is that you don't do very interesting things. In your attempts at relevance you seem to limit yourself to what's permissible. Trump and Peterson operate outside of what's permitted (which makes success harder).

      6:47 PM - 9 Jun 2018 from Cambridge, MA
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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Jun 2018
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          So the actual mystery here is why you’re trying to figure me out at all. There’s really not much to figure out, so my theory is it bothers you to see unexplained divergence. It doesn’t bother me because I think divergence is the default and convergence is what needs explaining

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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          Ah, ok. I did not realize that this is not obvious. I am interested in understanding specific divergence because I need to account for my own divergence. (I don't think you are not correct in assuming that convergence is not the default. Convergence is heavily selected for.)

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          (I would not expect that someone is flattered by my own attention to them. It am really quite irrelevant. As I said, I prize meaning and truth over relevance :)

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 9 Jun 2018
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          Again all very true, you’re on fire here. I’m no transgressive revolutionary, and I stick to fairly banal, relevant, normie things. You probably didn’t get that I was joking about getting that kind of attention. I would hate it.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Jun 2018
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          Btw, I am also not a transgressive revolutionary. I just feel that it is entirely irrelevant if other people consider the truth to be a transgression.

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