I’m one of them and I think that’s an incoherent position. Simulation is one system representing a model of another and it has zero salience to the hard problem of consciousness.
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I am sorry that you cannot see it, and I am not sure if I can help you. I have failed to make myself understood to you in the past, and I have not yet figured out where our respective modes of making sense of the universe diverge.
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what is your criterion to tell apart a simulated system from a... also, what's the opposite of a simulated system?
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The ground truth has an actually implemented transition function. A simulacrum can only be described as if it did. I think that is what the difference comes down to. Most models are simulacra.
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We argue that if simulations are real they aren't simulationshttps://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/yp3b7w/we-dont-live-in-a-simulation …
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A simulated apple can feed someone in the same simulation. Simulated water can make a simulated hand wet. Simulated information processing is the same as information processing, and simulated thoughts are thoughts.
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I think maybe what he means is that for consciousness to emerge there needs to be some level of freedom that some simulations don't have. A normal computer simulation is, presumably, too linear.
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I understand where your intuition comes from. But intuition is only reliable if it is built on deeply understanding a domain. Especially in philosophy, where we can have little experiential grounding.
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So the key to creating consciousness is to find what properties a simulation must entail in order to trick part of itself into believing it is experiencing something? (illusionism a la
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The beauty is that the brain itself does not have to be tricked, only the model does, and that is easy to achieve: the brain can just put it in there.
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