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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. parker‏ @pt 2 Jun 2018
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      As Googlers make symbolic statements on AI weapons in national defense, they seem perfectly comfortable ignoring the ways in which this same technology is used in products like search autocomplete to radicalize populations and precipitate violence. Way to be, Team Google.https://twitter.com/nxthompson/status/1002689505734938629 …

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      nxthompsonVerified account @nxthompson
      Why was there a backlash against Google's Project Maven work? In part due to "a growing fear among tech workers that their work is not making the world a better place." https://www.wired.com/story/google-wont-renew-controversial-pentagon-ai-project?mbid=social_tw_backchannel …
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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 3 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @pt @Grady_Booch

      Are you seriously asking for Google to control the political ideas of their users by manipulating autocomplete? Did you think that through?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 3 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @pt @Grady_Booch

      Again, just so I understand your argument correctly: is your suggestion that we solve social and political problems by making sure that Google manipulates the information it gives to its users, and the issue is that Google is not doing it well enough yet?

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 3 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @pt @Grady_Booch

      Which societal institution do you have in mind that should determine the amount and efficacy of political bias that is to be introduced in our computing tools?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 3 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @pt @Grady_Booch

      From a CS view, their algorithms are obviously not optimal. Irrelevant. You suggested that they *should* go down this route, and I am interested in your why and how. It is not totally obvious to me that Google should perform more political manipulation in autocomplete, not less.

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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 3 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @pt @Grady_Booch

          The question is if the "manipulation target" is to optimize the result according to what the particular user wants, or to what your democratically elected institutions (Trump?) want. What do you have in mind?

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        1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 3 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @Plinz @pt @Grady_Booch

          An optimal algorithm for controlling online media would probably train itself by learning from the changes in the behavior of users in response to manipulation. What is your loss function?

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