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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. samim‏ @samim 2 Jun 2018
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      "The UK government wants to put a price on nature – but that will destroy it" - by @GeorgeMonbiot: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/15/price-natural-world-destruction-natural-capital …

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Jun 2018
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      More importantly, the article tries to confront an economic argument with a moralistic one. The problem is that the entities that he needs to fight are pretty much immune to moral weapons, which is why the UK government is looking to deploy economic forces.

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    4. samim‏ @samim 2 Jun 2018
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      In the 21st century, "Money" is just a synonym for "Computation". Our current very crude cultural use of computation (not per-se the science) is a direct extension of the very short-sighted logic which has produced climate change (cult of growth, consumption, and fake certainty)pic.twitter.com/ceu34DAp7G

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Jun 2018
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      Computation is not the same thing as calculation, and if you are a computationalist, of course everything is a kind of computation. But that does not mean that computation is synonymous with money, any more than water is synonymous with snow.

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    6. samim‏ @samim 2 Jun 2018
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      You are correct, there is nuance in computation. Tried to encapsulate in the "(not per-se the science)". But practically, looking at the blockchain people (energy consumption of Sweden, growing rapidly) and other ultra techno solutionism folks (more! more!) - it seems just dumb.

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      A suboptimal global outcome (slightly higher energy usage, which may benefit renewables btw., and possible financial crisis) often results from many agents optimizing for their local outcome (nice Lamborghinis). The solution is not better morals but better regulation.

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          Beyond such philosophical considerations, i am not convinced that the current extreme global (wealth/power) inequality (and its likely correlation with climate change) are a moral issue mainly - but for billions of people simply a matter of mental sanity and material survival.

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        3. samim‏ @samim 2 Jun 2018
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          As previously stated, I'm still very interested to hear what you think should be practically done - to move towards more desired outcomes in the unfolding climate catastrophe. There is a strong tendency to get stuck in the cynical criticism stage of the analysis & give up ;)

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