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    1. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      And shouldn't STATE legislatures also be a lot larger? 1800: Pennsylvania population: 602,545; PA House size, 78 districts; ~8,000 people per district. 2010: PA population: 12,702,379; PA House size, 203 districts; ~63,000 people per district. PA House should have 1600 districts!

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    2. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      Somehow people who make the "US House districts used to be smaller and therefore [no actual argument gets made here]" argument never seem to get around to arguing that the Pennsylvania State House should have 1600 districts.

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    3. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      When Abraham Lincoln was elected to the Illinois State Legislature in ~1834, the state had around 300,000 people, and 91 State House members. Now Illinois has 12.8 million people, so I guess the Illinois House should have four thousand members, right? That's just common sense.

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    4. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      Although the best example is Nevada: 1870: Nevada had 42,491 people and about 40-50 state House members. Today: Nevada has 3 million people and 42 state House members. So I guess the Nevada House should also have 3000-4000 members, right?

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    5. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      I mostly think this would be funny. Is there a single legislative chamber in the world with thousands of members? I guess there's China's National People's Congress, that bastion of democratic responsiveness.

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    6. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      Side note: I have occasionally wondered what percentage of China's population is a member of one of these "series of tiers of local assemblies", because, say, 20*20*20*3000 is already 24 million people.pic.twitter.com/ms8Q3e15ik

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    7. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      (That is, if you have 3000 people, each of which is elected by a 20-person assembly, each of which is elected by a 20-person assembly, each of which is elected by a 20-person assembly, then that's 24 million people in one or another assembly, assuming they don't overlap.)

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    8. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018

      Actually that'd be 25,263,000 people in total. So either I'm reading this wrong, or there's overlap one way or another, or a rather large % of China is in one of these bodies.

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    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 20 Apr 2018
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      2% is a rather large percentage?

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    10. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018
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      A. Yes it is. B. That's a pretty low guess since the article implies there are more than three tiers below national.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 20 Apr 2018
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      How is this different from participation in party committees, factory meetings, and all the other boring stuff that is standard in communist regimes? Given that mandatory participation in this stuff is an element of social control, I don't find it as surprising as you seem to

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        1. Xenocrypt‏ @xenocryptsite 20 Apr 2018
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          I suppose I just find it funny because it's only implied how many millions of people must be involved rather than stated outright. Exponential growth is a helluva thing.

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