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    1. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @VaughnBlake @zeynep @grubercraft

      I suppose you think record companies decide what music will be popular, too?

      11 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @benedictevans @VaughnBlake @grubercraft

      Record companies aren’t the right metaphor either. Why are we looking for metaphors? Facebook is pretty specific as a case to discuss; no huge mystery to the dynamics at play. Record companies sell to us, and don’t resemble Facebook.

      1 reply 1 retweet 53 likes
    3. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @VaughnBlake @grubercraft

      Since it obviously wasn’t clear enough, here is the metaphor: it sounds obvious that fashion designers control fashion, or record labels control musical tastes- they make the product! But of course, their control is actually very very limited. So for Facebook... 1/2

      4 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
    4. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @benedictevans @zeynep and

      It seems obvious FB controls how people use FB - they make it! They have all these tools, and information!. But that’s exactly the same error. Like fashion, social reflects what came before, and how we want to feel. And FB & fashion can only try to capture & channel that. 2/3

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    5. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @benedictevans @zeynep and

      And (3/3) I keep seeing from you (I think) the unqualified assumption that FB has some fundamental *control* of what we do on Facebook, and can make us do X and Y in important ways. And I think any such control is very, very limited - that FB is led by our use, not the reverse.

      6 replies 1 retweet 31 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @benedictevans @VaughnBlake @grubercraft

      Fashion is a retail industry; Facebook is infrastructure—the retail part is users, but not the business. I don’t argue Facebook has control but it certainly has shaping power. But my beef is with the externalities of the business model. 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 64 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @benedictevans and

      My metaphor is more a cafeteria. We have appetites, sure, and the cafeteria is selecting food that we are more vulnerable to at the moment (not through deliberation) but we aren’t even buying the food. Plus network effects, so can’t leave. No retail business captures this. 2/2

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    9. eleanorina‏ @_eleanorina 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @alexstamos @zeynep and

      this point from @zeynep is key " It’s more a novel form of infrastructure."

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 18 Mar 2018
      Replying to @alexstamos @_eleanorina and

      Also a Russian sprinkled polonium in the chowder

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Mar 2018
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