What percentage of iPhone owners do you think have never touched iCloud at all, ever, "not even once"? Apple's mobile security model has been top-shelf for sure, but projects like @CopperheadOS make the iOS/Android distance less "overwhelming" and more about trade-offs.
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Replying to @Snowden @CopperheadOS
We all come at this with a different context in mind. For me, it's important to be able to point low-tech, high-risk people (like journalists or congressional campaign staff) at a device that will protect them, in a situation where they don't have access to expert support
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So particularly important is lock screen protection, and the guarantee of timely software updates
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No one would be happier than me if Google decided to make an Android phone that had iPhone-equivalent security. I know the Android team is capable of doing it, and wants to do it, but Google does not, and employees have not been able to override this decision.
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It's strange to claim that Google business interests are somehow not aligned with Pixel hardware security. They've made significant progress on improving the firmware/hardware security with each of the past device generations. It isn't something that happens in one day.
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Replying to @CopperheadOS @Snowden
So why isn't a Pixel as secure as an iPhone? It has a superior camera to the Apple device, but inferior data protection, despite being designed later. Google's priorities seem crystal clear.
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Explain what you mean by inferior data protection? The Pixel and Pixel 2 both have hardware-bound key derivation and the Pixel 2 has a security chip enforcing exponentially escalating delays on failure. The hardware support is good already, the remaining work is mostly software.
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Both Android and iOS use the same default for app storage, which keeps it at rest only after a reboot until the first unlock. iOS apps can more easily opt-in to having data protected when the screen is locked, but Android does have that functionality. It's just more verbose.
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Replying to @CopperheadOS @Snowden
My definition is operational. As a non-technical user, you can take a stock iPhone and configure it very securely by following a short guide. To get an equivalent level of protection in Android, you need to be an expert, or have expert assistance.
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Hahah, he avoids the questions all the time and just keeps repeating the mantra how Apple is better.
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Eero, Apple is way better. It comes in cooler colors than Android.
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