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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 21 May 2017

    From the outside, front end development in 2017 looks pathologically overcomplicated. Is this a fair perception? If so, why is it happening?

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      1. Steve Randy Waldman‏ @interfluidity 21 May 2017
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        peacock feathers.

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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 21 May 2017
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        I think it's partly competition on mobile UX, which is just hard to do well with traditional primitives. Then there's overengineering.

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 21 May 2017
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        And simultaneous underengineering, oddly enough. The tool chains are not exactly mature and churn rapidly enough to make it difficult to.

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      1. jm‏ @__jm 21 May 2017
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        because what was done on the backed is now done on the front-end. And since it's still downloaded you need to package it well.

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      1. jędrek kostecki, interneciarz.‏ @jedrek 21 May 2017
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        I don't think so. Frontend has massively grown in what is possible and what is demanded ; tools are just keeping up.

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      1. Tyler‏ @tbreisacher 21 May 2017
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        Yes but don't worry. I'm working on an intuitive lightweight framework that will make it so much easier.

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      1. Kevin Riggle‏ @kevinriggle 21 May 2017
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        Somebody else #onhere suggested that Javascript frameworks suffer from the Curse of LISP because JS is secretly a LISP. Not obviously wrong.

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      2. Chris Ford‏ @ctford 21 May 2017
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        We're working our way through the design debt caused by having too few senior folks involved in front-end for too long.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 21 May 2017
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        can you expand on that?

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      2. Giovanni Idili‏ @John_Idol 21 May 2017
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        It is a fact that a lot of what traditionally used to happen server-side has moved to the client. /1

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      3. Giovanni Idili‏ @John_Idol 21 May 2017
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        Tools are being developed to let people do client-side the same kind of stuff they do server-side, infrastructure wise. /2

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