The idea of flyover country is a view I've heard from New Yorkers, never from Californians.
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yes exactly. NYC is isolated; California has rural right in it. Central Valley is very similar to Midwest culturally.
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the local snobbery is much more pervasive in my experience, and a lot more interesting. 30 miles in CA = total cultural change
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I'm a third generation Oaklander. I can do local snobbery like you have never seen before!
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the snobbery is people who characterise thermals as "real America" because they live in the middle of nowhere
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phrases like "New York values" are redolent with snobbery
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