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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Oct 3

    For me the weirdest thing about covid has been realizing that the common cold is a ragtag museum of coronavirus pandemics past, all eventually tamed by becoming ubiquitous in early childhood, which we should have paid so much more attention to.

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      2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Oct 3

        It was kind of like a "birds are dinosaurs" moment in terms of putting things into perspective. Early on I thought covid was a cold that tried to rise above its station, but now I realize it's where colds come from to begin with.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Oct 3

        Nice brief article about trying to map the origin of "common cold" coronaviruses we all get onto past pandemicshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7252012/ …

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      4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Oct 3

        Anyway, where my novel rhinoviruses at? You just going to let yourself get punked like this?

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      1.  ☂️ Kelvin  🎗‏ @mrchan Oct 3
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         ☂️ Kelvin  🎗 Retweeted Noah Zark

        Yeah, the common cold isn’t a virus; it’s a *strategy* (make the respiratory tract pump gallons of virus carrying fluids and don’t kill the host)https://twitter.com/urbanethology/status/1238834601444945920?s=21 …

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        Noah Zark @UrbanEthology
        They're generally more "mild" because the human immune system is better equipped, but also because of convergent evolution on this common cold phenotype. Viruses that kill hosts in many ways do themselves a disservice, because that host isn't walking around, spreading virus. 5/
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      2. David "nicholdav" Skellington  💀‏ @nicholdav Oct 3
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        Not sure what you're trying to say? It's the same family of viruses, yes. But we don't actually know they all caused pandemics. We **do** know that public health measures work best, regardless. Letting kids get sick is still a bad idea right now? https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/how-we-live-coronavirus-forever/619783/ …pic.twitter.com/Yd8uWbn8qE

        We don’t know exactly how the four common-cold coronaviruses first came to infect humans, but some have speculated that at least one also began with a pandemic.
        Endemicity as the COVID-19 endgame seems quite clear, but how we get there is less so. In part, that is because the path depends on us. As my colleague Ed Yong has written, the eventuality of endemic COVID-19 does not mean we should drop all precautions. The more we can flatten the curve now, the less hospitals will become overwhelmed and the more time we buy to vaccinate the unvaccinated, including children. Letting the virus rip through unvaccinated people may get us to endemicity quickest, but it will also kill the most people along the way.
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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Oct 3
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        I'm saying the evidence is suggestive that 'common cold' is the end state of coronavirus pandemics like the current one. I don't care one way or another about current public health measures or advice for kids.

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      2. Luke Gardner‏ @likeluke Oct 3
        Replying to @Pinboard

        my stepdad said for years that "they can do X or Y (where X or Y is some wild scientific achievement), but they can't cure the common cold" anyway, those mRNA vaccines are pretty neat.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Oct 3
        Replying to @likeluke

        There was a great thread by someone on cold vaccines here back in 2020. The upshot was that colds are the Whitman's Viral Sampler and there was no way to make it economically tenable to vaccinate.

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      1. Matthew Skala  💉 💉‏ @mattskala Oct 3
        Replying to @Pinboard @VectorOfBasis

        Worth remembering that although a large minority of common colds are caused by coronaviruses, most are not.

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      2. Clint Barton‏ @HawkguyClint Oct 3
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        Epidemiologists were paying attention. The rest of us ignored the warnings.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Oct 3
        Replying to @HawkguyClint

        What warnings? "Don't sleep on our virus labs in Wuhan!"

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