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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      The debate over our departure is being flattened into LEAVE or REMAIN as part of an ideological turf war. It's the only way to defend the mix of carelessness and political calculation that prevented a serious attempt at bringing Afghans out along with the troops they worked with

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      How much of the decision to break commitments to people we worked with in Afghanistan was calculated policy, and how much was due to ineptitude or carelessness, is impossible to discern from the outside. It's an important question entirely distinct from "should we stay or go"

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    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      I'm fine with people like @mattstoller or @mattyglesias insisting this was a binary choice, and calling the people who disagree idiots. We're on Twitter, after all. I'm less cool with them accusing people who reject the framing of intellectual dishonesty, like we saw upthread

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    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      I get that fighting over Afghanistan is making old scars from the 2002-era Blog Wars tingle. But there are people outside of Substack and the U.S. military whose lives have also been affected by our conduct in Afghanistan, and it is not some ideological foul to talk about them

      2 replies 15 retweets 108 likes
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    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      Arguing that leaving our closest friends and allies behind was the inevitable result of "messiness", rather than a political decision recognizing that no one wants Afghan refugees, and that anyone who disagrees is carrying water for "The Blob" is taking people to inhuman places.

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    6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      You'd think the central lesson of these wars would have stuck: it's not always about what happens to America and Americans. Biden could have saved thousands of lives by making better (or less cynical) policy decisions; and the value of those lives is not a function of citizenship

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    7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      You'd think someone like Yglesias would be the one arguing that details of policy implementation matter more than ideological battles waged over cable news. The failure to get vulnerable Afghans out was a catastrophic and *unnecessary* concomitant to withdrawing our troops.

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    8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      Despite suggestions to the contrary, Afghanistan is a large country with many cities, and we left our friends stranded in all of them. This is not a "wait and see" situation where early incompetence gives rise to a smooth evacuation and all ends well. The die was cast weeks ago.

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    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22

      My chief request to people is just a thought experiment. Pretend that the current withdrawal, and the policy decisions about handling Afghan refugees, were happening under Trump. Would your reaction be different? If so, why?

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    10. LithopEdion‏ @CEOLexE Aug 22
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Trump literally drew down the troops leading to this you disingenuous, bad faith buffoon

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Aug 22
      Replying to @CEOLexE

      Trump kept Biden from evacuating Afghans for eight months? Impeach him again!

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        2. LawlessIsBack 🌊 ✌️ 🇺🇲‏ @Lawless2021 Aug 22
          Replying to @Pinboard @CEOLexE

          Why didn't Trump get personnel and equipment out prior to the withdrawal of troops? Common Sense would be get the personnel and equipment out first.... Just saying....

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        3. Ken with the apple bottom boots‏ @jallen1315 Aug 22
          Replying to @Lawless2021 @Pinboard @CEOLexE

          Common sense says to take the equipment youre using to defend youself out before the people? Really? Think it through

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