Shock news, people - Twitter, Microsoft, lots of companies **do this already**. Facebook started in 2011. This is from a story I wrote in **2013**. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jul/22/twitter-photodna-child-abuse …https://twitter.com/ShawnWildermuth/status/1423348971846656006 …
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Replying to @charlesarthur @mathewi
Moving it onto devices is an extremely significant development; people are right to make a big deal of it.
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But it’s used against images that are going to be uploaded. To defeat the scanning, turn off image uploading. There’s a ton of detail that people have not checked. Shocking, I know, that people would have opinions without checking the facts.
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Replying to @charlesarthur @mathewi
It's the same issue as with FaceID; the fact that the locus of the scanning has moved to the device is highly significant no matter how many safeguards Apple thinks they're putting around it, or how limited the initial scope. It is a big deal and people are correct to freak out.
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It's the difference between a cop stopping me for a traffic violation and then searching me, vs a cop stationed outside my house searching me every time I leave.
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no, it’s nothing like that. Terrible analogy.
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Terrible response. Why is it bad? Why is it not like that?
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Replying to @WickyNilliams @charlesarthur and
The difference between scanning thing I uploaded to a server, vs scanning things on my device is roughly analogous to searching me out in the field, vs at my house. Regardless of the quality of my analogy, you equated these two things things, when they are patently not the same
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For what it's worth, I find your analogy fruitful. The locus of control makes an enormous difference, even if initially the same policies are being enforced.
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to be at all congruent, it would need to be an offence where *possession* is an immediate, no-quibbles offence. Where it wouldn’t matter if you’re possessing it as you step out of your front door, or when you’re in your car. You can’t speed in your house.
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That's what the original analogy is describing, though. If you think the pretextual traffic stop part of it is too messy, change it to one where you're patted down for drugs or weapons at the entrance of a night club vs. being patted down before leaving your home.
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Yeah the traffic stop element was clumsy, this is better. The point was not how the search comes about, but where it takes place. I'm sure anyone would agree a search outside your house by default feels most invasive, even if you're getting searched in both instances
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