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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 19

      My favorite genre of climate change story is "we built an incredibly fast-growing city out in the desert where there is no water and it is too hot. Can it survive?" Well, no, it can't. And it shouldn't. Why did you do that?

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 19

      This is the industrial version of that story, but it's always the same. Don't build big new cities in the desert, don't grow cotton in the desert, don't put massively water-intensive data centers in the desert. There's a pattern here if you can catch on!https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/drought-stricken-communities-push-back-against-data-centers-n1271344 …

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        1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 19

          The good news is since everybody just moved to these places, we know they can move out again. When the ancestral lands only go back to mom and dad buying into a subdivision in 1990, it's less painful.pic.twitter.com/jM3BooDVJg

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        2. Steve Larrison‏ @steve_larrison Jun 19
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          Now I will agree that building data centers out here isn't the best idea. It gets kind of hot this time of year. I didn't watch the local weather yesterday, but we were forecast to hit 119.

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        3. Steve Larrison‏ @steve_larrison Jun 19
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          Data centers are probably best located in cooler climates with less expensive power.

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        1. Greg Wasserstrom‏ @wssrstrm Jun 19
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          And golf courses.

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        2. Garrett Wollman‏ @garrett_wollman Jun 19
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          Why would a data-center be "water-intensive"? Cooling systems are closed-loop.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 19
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          The staff is really thirsty

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        2. One‏ @OneGravitas Jun 19
          Replying to @Pinboard

          The story is actually very different in industrial society. 96% of the water use* in the united states is for agriculture. If you no longer need to produce food locally building stuff in the desert is way more practical.

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        3. One‏ @OneGravitas Jun 19
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          But there's also a longstanding tradition of waving at non agricultural uses as if they're some huge burden on the water supply despite it really just being about agriculture.

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        1. tmarthal‏ @tmarthal Jun 19
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          When the City of Gilbert created a Foreign-Trade Zone where “Merchandise may be exported out of the U.S. duty free”, the chip makers don’t give two fucks about water supply

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        1. Michael Krakovskiy‏ @deadprogrammer Jun 19
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          You are tweeting this as if Paul Graham did not send icanhascheezburger guy to figure out cities. He's going to write up his findings. Don't you have some polar tales to tell?

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