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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8

      Pinboard Retweeted The Recount

      Same energy as when I invited my friends over but realize I don't want to clean the househttps://twitter.com/therecount/status/1401963741806092288 …

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      “I want to be clear to folks in this region who are thinking about making that dangerous trek to the United States-Mexico border: Do not come. Do not come.” — VP Kamala Harris during news conference with Guatemalan president Alejandro Giammattei pic.twitter.com/dYNwu7STbS
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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8

      I guess we're supposed to celebrate having a daughter of immigrants travel abroad to tell potential migrants to go fuck themselves in their own country, instead of a grandson of immigrants saying it from the White House.

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    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8

      That there's a functional legal process to immigrate to the US is a lie Americans tell themselves, but for Harris to go to Guatemala and lie like that is an insult. Guatemalans aren't even eligible for immigrant visas in 2022 because more than 50,000 came over the last 5 years.pic.twitter.com/6nuHmGcRBF

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    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8

      The only effective way to immigrate to the US is to show up and then hope you eventually find a way to upgrade to legal status (ask me how I know!). There is no meaningful legal pathway. Everyone understands this basic truth, but our politicians are too craven to discuss it.

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    5. Bart Wronski‏ @BartWronsk Jun 8
      Replying to @Pinboard

      This is definitely a stretch. Student visas, skilled worker visas, extraordinary ability visas. Yes- all favor the privileged (like myself) who either had money or received great education abroad. Yes, I once lost H1B lottery and used another path. But your point is a hyperbole.

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    6. Bart Wronski‏ @BartWronsk Jun 8
      Replying to @BartWronsk @Pinboard

      Especially conflating the diversity (!) visa and permanent residency as the only path of immigration is IMO manipulative. I'm sure you know the goals of DVs.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8
      Replying to @BartWronsk

      Yeah, you're right that one pathway for Guatemalans to get a green card is to win the Nobel Prize

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Bart Wronski‏ @BartWronsk Jun 8
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants a year (over a million with adjustments of status)- I had no idea there are that many Nobel Prize categories! Being serious - it's a huge stretch to say there are NO meaningful legal options. Might be super hard for unskilled workers.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8
      Replying to @BartWronsk

      That's kind of what I mean. The kind of person who has to cross Mexico on foot to hope to get into the US doesn't have a legal option (like a software job or PhD program) to fall back on. That's why what Harris said made me mad

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Bart Wronski‏ @BartWronsk Jun 8
      Replying to @Pinboard

      FWIW it made me very disappointed as well. But when we focus it on this kind of immigration (other ones are challenging-took me 4 years despite privilege-but possible),it's a different conversation and also harder to have- I think most Americans don't want low skill immigrants.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8
      Replying to @BartWronsk

      Most Americans are heavily reliant on low-skill illegal immigrant labor

      4:23 PM - 8 Jun 2021
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        2. Bart Wronski‏ @BartWronsk Jun 8
          Replying to @Pinboard

          it's not like an average person sees those two things (an undeniable fact of reliance on cheap immigrant labor across whole economy, and their opinions on low-skill immigration) as conflicting :) what's the solution that doesn't lead to further trumpism? I have no idea.

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        3. Bart Wronski‏ @BartWronsk Jun 8
          Replying to @BartWronsk @Pinboard

          it's like beating a dead horse by now,but even just a pragmatic discussion about what to do with existing immigrants/refugees helped the rise of European right wing populism in 2016. "Educate people" sounds condescending,"just allow immigration" leads to opportunistic xenophobia.

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        2. Chris Hundt‏ @honestshrubber Jun 8
          Replying to @Pinboard @BartWronsk

          Do you have a good link to some details about how exactly the median American is "reliant" on this? Like, everyone knows that illegal immigrant labor is pervasive in many industries, but I don't have a sense of how an average American's life would differ were that not the case

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8
          Replying to @honestshrubber @BartWronsk

          American agriculture runs on migrant labor. Pretty much any restaurant kitchen in the country is staffed by immigrants, same for a lot of construction and child care. Hospitals are basically run by legal immigrant nurses.

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