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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 8

    Pinboard Retweeted Matthew Kassel

    One of the big things I changed my mind about in politics the last four years is ranked-choice voting. I used to love it and now think it is an unsalvageable idea. Voters see it as unfair (some people get to vote multiple times!) and there's no un-confusing way to design a ballothttps://twitter.com/matthewkassel/status/1402280668177051661 …

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    "“Make sure you rank fifth one of the front-runners. That ensures your ballot is fully counted, even if that means choosing between the lesser of two evils." https://www.curbed.com/2021/06/nyc-ranked-choice-voting-strategies.html …
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      2. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer Jun 8
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        except it works in plenty of other countries. I'm not unsympathetic to the idea that the American public is unusually badly educated on civic responsibility, but I think they could be bought round.

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      3. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer Jun 8
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        I mean, have you met the average Australian voter?

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      1. thebishopgame has too many tracks in his session‏ @thebishopgame Jun 8
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        Are we just dumber as a nation than Australia that we can't figure it out?

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      2. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf Jun 8
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        It also doesn’t seem to work well; it addresses the problem of factions splitting the vote, but in a way that ultimately seems to redound to the benefit of the incumbent or mainstream party candidate or whatever.

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      3. You wouldn't donk a car.‏ @donkyourenemies Jun 8
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        The complaint that I've heard the most is that it can empower some buffoonish third party candidate no one has criticized as much as the two major candidates. That seems like the opposite problem to the one you're describing.

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      2. daeveningglow‏ @InlandCaGuy Jun 8
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        It's a way to try to salvage non proportional voting systems. The better move is to have proportional representation.

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      3. Beyond Two Parties‏ @Beyond2Parties Jun 8
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        That's certainly speculative, as we haven't seen/compared countries with the best single-winner methods (score voting, approval voting) and best PR methods. https://www.rangevoting.org/PropRep  But we think getting PR requires score voting first.https://asitoughttobe.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/score-voting/ …

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      1. Ryan Moulton  💉 💉 🥳‏ @moultano Jun 8
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        This is probably just a matter of familiarity and experience. People will get a better intuition once they do it a few times.

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      2. Glengarry Glen Ross Douthat‏ @uhactually Jun 8
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        I’m not sure what I think about RCV but have you ever read about Ron Rivest’s ballot idea “ThreeBallot”? it makes RCV look like something a baby could dohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThreeBallot …

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      3. Beyond Two Parties‏ @Beyond2Parties Jun 8
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        3Ballot is about preventing fraud, not picking the right winner. Although it works well with score voting, which is already the generally best voting method.

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