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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 6

      In 1960 you had a strong basis to believe we were heading for routine space travel, the eradication of disease, and either world government or nuclear war. How none of these came to pass and we got Pepe memes instead is a testament to the power of the future to remain surprising

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    2. * 💉* I LIKE TO HAVE EVIL VAX‏ @vexwerewolf Jun 6
      Replying to @Pinboard

      None of those came to pass because of capitalism my dude

      1 reply 1 retweet 59 likes
    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 6
      Replying to @vexwerewolf

      You have a vaccine in your username that was developed by capitalism

      13 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    4. * 💉* I LIKE TO HAVE EVIL VAX‏ @vexwerewolf Jun 6
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Nah, it was developed by researchers with billions in public funding, my dude.

      1 reply 1 retweet 83 likes
    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 6
      Replying to @vexwerewolf

      Publicly funded by taxes from a robust capitalist economy! It's capitalism all the way down, I'm afraid

      14 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    6. * 💉* I LIKE TO HAVE EVIL VAX‏ @vexwerewolf Jun 6
      Replying to @Pinboard

      "robust capitalist economy" My dude, real wages have stagnated for my entire lifetime and most people in my generation will never be able to own a house

      1 reply 7 retweets 102 likes
    7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 6
      Replying to @vexwerewolf

      An entire economic and ideological alternative to capitalism died in my lifetime because it wasn't able to provide for people's most basic needs. So I'm always going to be a fan of capitalism, where shoes fit and the toilet paper at least doesn't hurt to use

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    8.  🔥Charred Astronaut 🔥 💉 💉‏ @BoredAstronaut Jun 6
      Replying to @Pinboard @vexwerewolf

      This narrative is absurd. Only ideologues fall for it. The "communists" were anything but. Communism was a cover story for authoritarianism. But also, communism is not socialism. Conflating them is another disingenuous act by apologists for capitalism.

      1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 6
      Replying to @BoredAstronaut @vexwerewolf

      This is the No True Scotsman defense for the failures of communism. You should also remember that modern authoritarian socialism was invented as an excuse for why communism wasn't showing up on schedule.

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    10. * 💉* I LIKE TO HAVE EVIL VAX‏ @vexwerewolf Jun 6
      Replying to @Pinboard @BoredAstronaut

      "This is the No True Scotsman defense for the failures of communism." Answer me this, clearly: was the Soviet Union a stateless society with workplace democracy in which all industries were controlled by the workers who participated in it?

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 6
      Replying to @vexwerewolf @BoredAstronaut

      Of course not. It was a nightmare dictatorship, as were all other attempts to reach that goal.

      12:12 PM - 6 Jun 2021
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        2. * 💉* I LIKE TO HAVE EVIL VAX‏ @vexwerewolf Jun 6
          Replying to @Pinboard @BoredAstronaut

          "Of course not." So it was neither socialist nor communist, then.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jun 6
          Replying to @vexwerewolf @BoredAstronaut

          That's the entire argument—that all attempts at creating communism lead inevitably to despotism. You can argue against it by saying "but we never had communism, so you can't criticize it", but it misses the point quite spectacularly.

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        2.  🔥Charred Astronaut 🔥 💉 💉‏ @BoredAstronaut Jun 6
          Replying to @Pinboard @vexwerewolf

          It's a fundamental error to think we can learn much about the general value of socialism—or communism—based on doomed historical attempts. To get to pure socialism from capitalism requires change. Revolution is change, but it is dysfunctional. Other means may exist, untried.

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        3. * 💉* I LIKE TO HAVE EVIL VAX‏ @vexwerewolf Jun 6
          Replying to @BoredAstronaut @Pinboard

          Revolution would certainly be better than just blithely allowing millions to die each year because "let's try reforming capitalism again, it didn't work the twenty-fifth time we tried it, but maybe this time's the charm!"

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