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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 29

    Pinboard Retweeted Ali Velshi

    People's thinking on this topic is tied in pretzels. The origins of covid matter because they will help us prevent the next pandemic. Lab escape and direct zoonotic transfer have radically different implications for how we do that. This is a public health issue, not geopoliticshttps://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1398701148333395968 …

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    “There is no smoking bat… [China] doesn’t trust the U.S. and we don’t trust them. This is set up to make the relationship between the two countries much worse.” @ianbremmer warns how the Wuhan-lab leak conspiracy theory will complicate U.S.-China relations. #velshi pic.twitter.com/Fyu9QnQl6J
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      2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 29

        China is an authoritarian surveillance state. They have ample relevant data to help determine the origins of covid, and can choose to share it or not. But our search for the answer should not be conditioned on their willingness to cooperate, or the consequences of making them mad

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 29

        Chinese citizens, because they live under authoritarian rule, are unable to pressure their government from within for a candid investigation into the origins of covid. The only possible source of pressure comes from abroad, and we can't abrogate our duty to seek answers.

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      4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 29

        If it turns out this was an iatrogenic pandemic, then that also has immense global implications for how we study dangerous pathogens in the future. This is not a "blame China" issue but a basic question of risk.

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      5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 29

        Those who equate criticism of the Chinese government with sinophobia or racism are carrying water for a genocidal regime, and doing immense disservice to the very people they claim to be defending.

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      2. Miguel “metaverse” de Icaza‏ @migueldeicaza May 29
        Replying to @Pinboard

        Regardless of the source, we should operate as if both had happened.

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      3. Joe Blubaugh‏ @JoeBlubaugh May 29
        Replying to @migueldeicaza @Pinboard

        Yeah, there’s not much reason to suppose that the source of another pandemic would be the same as this one.

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      1. The Wall‏ @thewall May 29
        Replying to @Pinboard

        If both are so plausible shouldn’t we defend against both either way?

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      2. The Dude‏ @the__dude98 May 29
        Replying to @Pinboard

        The most ironic part is that China was doing so much research in an attempt to understand and prevent the potential futures SARS pandemics, but the lab leak would mean they caused it instead.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 29
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        Yeah, exactly. We need to know whether the research in the end poses a greater threat than what is being studied.

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      1. Undercover Jeremy Ottevanger‏ @jottevanger May 29
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        Sort of, yeah, but we know it could be either and should be prepared for either (and to do what we can to avoid either). It would hard to avoid geopolitical implications of a lab escape, though you’re right overall: we absolutely need to know whatever we can

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