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    1. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer May 27

      thing that has happened a reasonable amount: lab accidents thing that has not happened before: lab accidents resulting in the release of a previously unknown virus thing that has happened a lot before: zoonotic transfer producing previously unknown viruses

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 27
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      Your reasoning is flawed in two ways here. First, it would go through if there were regular novel virus pandemics, but they are rare, and so you can't make this inference. Second, lab accident release does not preclude zoonotic transfer as the original origin.

      5 replies 0 retweets 32 likes
    3. James Palmer‏ @BeijingPalmer May 27
      Replying to @Pinboard

      novel viruses are rare but there have been a lot! novel viruses that produce pandemics is a tiny category. on the second, sure, it's possible but ... why imagine an extra step that we have no evidence for, instead of just good old, has happened a bunch zoonotic transfer

      2 replies 0 retweets 45 likes
    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 27
      Replying to @BeijingPalmer

      *Pandemics* are a tiny category so you can't reason back the way you did. On the second point, there's a virus lab that studies these viruses in the NYC-sized city where the pandemic started. This is not the remote wilds of Yunnan where weird animals abound. That's suggestive.

      3 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 27
      Replying to @Pinboard @BeijingPalmer

      A lot of this discussion implies that there's a perfectly well-documented zoonotic pathway that is being shouted down by conspiracists but that's not my understanding. The virus lab leak hypothesis answers the difficult question of how a weird zoonotic strain ended up in Wuhan

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    6.  💉 💉 Dr. Trey is Vaccinated‏ @Comparativist May 27
      Replying to @Pinboard @BeijingPalmer

       💉 💉 Dr. Trey is Vaccinated Retweeted OSINT HK

      I'm really surprised this version of 'accidental lab release' didn't get any traction. The same guy takes off his PPE in the cave during their promotional videohttps://twitter.com/OSINTHK/status/1228921280243490816?s=19 …

       💉 💉 Dr. Trey is Vaccinated added,

      OSINT HK @OSINTHK
      What wasn't shown in this video but described elsewhere: - several exposures to bat urine and blood - forgetting to wear PPE gear - using fireworks to catch wild bats. https://twitter.com/OSINTHK/status/1228708758265581568?s=19 … pic.twitter.com/9JX9hrXkCm
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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 27
      Replying to @Comparativist @BeijingPalmer

      Something that it's weird to see get left out of the discussion is the high baseline rate of containment failures overall. In the US, according to DCD data, there were *two a week* in 2010 at high containment level facilities. These kinds of screw-ups are absolutely routine.

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