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    Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 25

    If you want ethical AI, regulate data collection. The algorithms are just gussied-up linear algebra and cannot function without immense data collections derived from nonconsensual commercial surveillance.

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      2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 25

        There's no way to de-bias this data, since there are other kinds of bias in the data that we don't even think about, along with proxies for the biases we do try to remove. But all you have to do is not collect and retain it, and the entire problem goes away.

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 25

        Who knew in 2021 the Matrix would turn out to be just a stupid matrix.

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      4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 25

        This is what I mean when I say working on AI ethics at places like Google is like doing climatology at Exxon-Mobil, or heading the coyote safety division at ACME. It removes an entire class of effective regulatory interventions from discussion.

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      2. Bart Wronski‏ @BartWronsk May 25
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        Regulate data collection *and* use? Obviously. But this doesn't solve the ethics problem - breaks as soon as someone just hard-codes if(a) do_b(). This can lead to same outcome and unethical/problematic/biased algorithms (and it did in the past - see the skin color bias).

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      3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 25
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        I'm not claiming to solve the general ethics problem, just this new class of ML-derived ethics problems

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