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    1. Kris Nuttycombe‏ @nuttycom May 17
      Replying to @nuttycom @philosophene @Pinboard

      Amorphous, voluntarist, online worker-owned cooperatives that can fork and merge like an open-source code repository.

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    2. Finn’s Generation Art‏ @FinnGeneration May 18
      Replying to @nuttycom @philosophene @Pinboard

      Which would be great… if the reality weren’t just dudes buying up computer hardware in bulk so they could get rich off of fake money. True volunteerist, worker owned cooperatives don’t need currency.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Kris Nuttycombe‏ @nuttycom May 18
      Replying to @FinnGeneration @philosophene @Pinboard

      That’s naive. Any such structure for people working together has to fit in and compete with what exists to some degree. And markets require a medium of exchange.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Finn’s Generation Art‏ @FinnGeneration May 18
      Replying to @nuttycom @philosophene @Pinboard

      Favors, exchanged products. Also, competing is a symptom of capitalism. It’s not inherent of working with people

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    5. Kris Nuttycombe‏ @nuttycom May 18
      Replying to @FinnGeneration @philosophene @Pinboard

      Barter doesn’t scale to the complexity of 8 billion people and high degrees of specialization of work.

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    6. Finn’s Generation Art‏ @FinnGeneration May 18
      Replying to @nuttycom @philosophene @Pinboard

      Are you paying 8 million people?

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    7. philosophene‏ @philosophene May 18
      Replying to @FinnGeneration @nuttycom @Pinboard

      There is zero chance I'm going to barter for everything i need. I'm not going to try to figure out what the grocer needs for every transaction i have and then figure out what i can offer to match. Money abstracts that away so it takes less energy to exchange goods and services

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. philosophene‏ @philosophene May 18
      Replying to @philosophene @FinnGeneration and

      Could you imagine a wood worker trying to pay for mail order goods? They would have to ship something make sure it got there okay then the vendor would ship their goods. But then he has to pay the shipping company with another good.

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    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 18
      Replying to @philosophene @FinnGeneration @nuttycom

      That's not how it ever works, though. No society runs on barter, people keep track of their debts and it works fine.

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    10. philosophene‏ @philosophene May 18
      Replying to @Pinboard @FinnGeneration @nuttycom

      That is my point. It is a poorly thought out argument to say barter should be anything other than what it is today.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 18
      Replying to @philosophene @FinnGeneration @nuttycom

      My point is that barter is a fiction from intro to economics books

      8:25 AM - 18 May 2021
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        2. philosophene‏ @philosophene May 18
          Replying to @Pinboard @FinnGeneration @nuttycom

          Agreed. It has never worked. Even large stone wheels were preferred to it

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        3. Finn’s Generation Art‏ @FinnGeneration May 18
          Replying to @philosophene @Pinboard @nuttycom

          Remove me from this.

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