So the benefit is you don't have to cut multiple checks, which saves paper?
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Replying to @philosophene @Pinboard
The benefit is that you can finally have true worker-owned cooperatives.
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Amorphous, voluntarist, online worker-owned cooperatives that can fork and merge like an open-source code repository.
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Which would be great… if the reality weren’t just dudes buying up computer hardware in bulk so they could get rich off of fake money. True volunteerist, worker owned cooperatives don’t need currency.
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That’s naive. Any such structure for people working together has to fit in and compete with what exists to some degree. And markets require a medium of exchange.
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Favors, exchanged products. Also, competing is a symptom of capitalism. It’s not inherent of working with people
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Barter doesn’t scale to the complexity of 8 billion people and high degrees of specialization of work.
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Are you paying 8 million people?
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There is zero chance I'm going to barter for everything i need. I'm not going to try to figure out what the grocer needs for every transaction i have and then figure out what i can offer to match. Money abstracts that away so it takes less energy to exchange goods and services
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Could you imagine a wood worker trying to pay for mail order goods? They would have to ship something make sure it got there okay then the vendor would ship their goods. But then he has to pay the shipping company with another good.
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That's not how it ever works, though. No society runs on barter, people keep track of their debts and it works fine.
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That is my point. It is a poorly thought out argument to say barter should be anything other than what it is today.
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My point is that barter is a fiction from intro to economics books
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