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    1. Steve Randy Waldman‏ @interfluidity May 10

      if you wanted to archive a terabyte of data in perpetuity, how would you plan to do it?

      14 replies 2 retweets 11 likes
    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 10
      Replying to @interfluidity

      How long of a perpetuity are we talking about? Serious question.

      2 replies 0 retweets 21 likes
    3. Steve Randy Waldman‏ @interfluidity May 10
      Replying to @Pinboard

      “indefinite” meaning it’s not like nuclear waste warning signs that are supposed to outlast our civilization, but as long as our civilization has a kind of continuous existence, it should be available. think of case law or scientific publications as comparables.

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    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 10
      Replying to @interfluidity

      Okay, that narrows it down! Two solutions seem to have worked well in the past are to make the terabyte a holy text that must be transmitted verbatim (though you still get bit rot). Or engrave it onto quartz cubes and build the biggest pyramid you can afford out of them

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    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 10
      Replying to @Pinboard @interfluidity

      All digital media is out, so you need a hard copy. Cave paintings seem to age well, but you're going to need a lot of caves. Carved stones are durable and at least stackable. And if budget is no limit, it would be hard to go wrong with mile-high letters on the Moon

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 10
      Replying to @Pinboard @interfluidity

      For 100% durability, encode it into the genome of a sexually transmitted disease, and it will last as long as humanity. But the tricky part there is genetic drift, unless you figure out a way to make it functional. Personally I'd go with a foundation, a vault and acid-free paper

      11:28 AM - 10 May 2021
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        1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 10
          Replying to @Pinboard @interfluidity

          The serious answer to your question also depends on how much you tolerate inaccuracies. The Qur'an is 150 kilobytes or so transmitted almost verbatim for 1,100 years, but that took a lot of work. Alternatively, you can try to find a physical format that's really hard to destroy

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        2. Pierre-Marie Houdry‏ @evenlessdesign May 10
          Replying to @Pinboard @interfluidity

          Paper is definitely the storage solution with the best record for longevity. But 1tb in paper is a lot! It would take half a million page according to this (if printed black/white)https://www.quora.com/Visually-how-much-paper-would-a-GB-and-a-TB-of-data-fill-in-terms-of-physical-size?share=1 …

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 10
          Replying to @evenlessdesign @interfluidity

          You definitely want to print black and white, because otherwise you're going to spend a fortune on cyan

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