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    1. Lara Putnam‏ @lara_putnam May 4

      Lara Putnam Retweeted Pinboard

      I'm increasingly pessimistic about all this👇actually: but to me that makes it even more urgent for Dem-side groups to be spending/planning NOW in support of infrastructure that will make the next decade or so of natl GOP election victories less damaginghttps://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1389637593436868611 …

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      Pinboard @Pinboard
      This is an excellent thread about the fractured media reality that we inhabit, and the fact that most Republican voters are now unreachable due to living in a different epistemic universe from us. Unlike Putnam I no longer have hope that we can fix this, but her analysis is great https://twitter.com/lara_putnam/status/1388827384477110275 …
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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 4
      Replying to @lara_putnam

      Can you clarify what you're talking about when you say infrastructure?

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    3. Lara Putnam‏ @lara_putnam May 4
      Replying to @Pinboard

      Lara Putnam Retweeted Lara Putnam

      👍https://twitter.com/lara_putnam/status/1389644612789276676 …

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      Lara Putnam @lara_putnam
      I'm talking about the organizations, networks, rules, interaction spaces & channels that enable people to find ways to do politics together (=internal infrastructure) & to reach out & connect/persuade/engage people~voters more broadly (=external infrstrct) https://twitter.com/lara_putnam/status/1340342761053188098 …
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    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 4
      Replying to @lara_putnam

      I'm sorry to be dense, but I find that kind of abstract. Like say I have ten million dollars in western Iowa, what do I fund?

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    5. Henry Farrell‏Verified account @henryfarrell May 4
      Replying to @Pinboard @lara_putnam

      I understand Lara’s argument (maybe wrongly) as linked to a broader set of claims that the big problem with the Democratic Party is that it has become disconnected from local organizing - see further https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/09/learn-about-democratic-partys-future-look-what-latino-organizers-did-arizona/?itid=lk_inline_manual_16 … andhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/10/what-happened-that-blue-wave/ …

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    6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 4
      Replying to @henryfarrell @lara_putnam

      I'm curious to hear about it from Lara since she has spent time working with specific groups and tactics. The national conversation about it tends to be impossibly abstract, conducted by people with no practical experience but a lot of opinions about what should be done

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    7. Henry Farrell‏Verified account @henryfarrell May 4
      Replying to @Pinboard @lara_putnam

      Absolutely - and Lara is just great on this in a way that few scholars are. One of the pieces that I linked to is by my colleague @hahriehan - I’m biased, but she too is deeply engaged in the actual work of figuring things out with people who do this for a living.

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    8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 4
      Replying to @henryfarrell @lara_putnam @hahriehan

      The wall that I ran into in 2020 in particular was that every race had been effectively nationalized, down to county water commissioner. There was no room for local party building. The persuasion issue came down to asking people to change their identity, which is a hard sell.

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    9. Henry Farrell‏Verified account @henryfarrell May 4
      Replying to @Pinboard @lara_putnam @hahriehan

      I’m certainly one of the hurlers on the ditch but as I understand the debate there are two intersecting problems - building/recruiting/changing on the ground and providing better information to the top to minimize screwups. The first _may_ be a little more readily solvable?

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    10. Lara Putnam‏ @lara_putnam May 4
      Replying to @henryfarrell @Pinboard @hahriehan

      I like this^ formulation & it highlights the fact that it would be helpful even to get the "the top" to recognize that a stronger & more dispersed set of structures that channel the voices of those doing politics in different spaces would be *useful* as well as uncomfortable

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 4
      Replying to @lara_putnam @henryfarrell @hahriehan

      I really apologize for being dense, but while the formulation appeals to me, I don't understand what the *structures* are. State parties? Kiwanis clubs? Church groups? Book club? And how does that work where the partisan divide runs inside marriages, let alone between neighbors?

      12:56 PM - 4 May 2021
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        1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard May 4
          Replying to @Pinboard @lara_putnam and

          For four years I've heard everyone (including myself) say we need to build infrastructure and capacity, but the concrete shape this takes in Ephrata PA or Fort Dodge IA (let alone Nebraska or Wyoming) still escapes my understanding

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        2. Lara Putnam‏ @lara_putnam May 4
          Replying to @Pinboard @henryfarrell @hahriehan

          Local parties. Local progressive groups. Networks connecting local party leaders/elected officials/activists in periodic substantive dialogue. State party subcommittees w/mandates+resources to find & support local initiatives in concrete ways. Mentors for schoolboard candidates

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        3. Hahrie Han 한 하 리‏ @hahriehan May 5
          Replying to @lara_putnam @Pinboard @henryfarrell

          Late to this convo but agree that I like @henryfarrell's formulation! My quibble is that it's not just getting info to the "top." The info is there, but it's not legitimated/valued in the same way other tactical things are....for so many reasons.

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