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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
      Replying to @Rahsfan @migueldeicaza

      "Our committee has done nothing in the three months of its existence" seems like a good reason to get rid of it

      19 replies 3 retweets 114 likes
    3. 邹雨舟‏ @chrystalzou Apr 27
      Replying to @Pinboard @Rahsfan @migueldeicaza

      This is a wildly bad take. Don’t target the people doing the work to make things better from the inside. Target the people who made the unilateral decision to ban making things better from the inside.

      1 reply 0 retweets 110 likes
    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
      Replying to @chrystalzou @Rahsfan @migueldeicaza

      But I agree with the people who banned this in the belief that it makes things worse, not better

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    5. Pedro Reys‏ @pedroreys Apr 27
      Replying to @Pinboard @chrystalzou and

      do you honestly believe that banning their marginalized employees from actively participating and engaging in their DEI efforts, and instead, putting the white head of HR in charge of it will make things better? Better to whom?

      1 reply 0 retweets 36 likes
    6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
      Replying to @pedroreys @chrystalzou and

      I would dispute that anyone who works at Basecamp is in any way marginalized. A cushy tech job is kind of by definitions not at the margins of anything. That aside, I think these efforts are far better conducted by workers outside the supervision and involvement of management.

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    7. Pedro Reys‏ @pedroreys Apr 27
      Replying to @Pinboard @chrystalzou and

      while I agree with the part of organizing without management involvement, the first part of what you said reads like you are gaslighting all marginalized folks that work in tech because they make good money.

      3 replies 0 retweets 38 likes
    8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
      Replying to @pedroreys @chrystalzou and

      Has 'gaslighting' now come to mean any disagreement?

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    9. John Cavnar-Johnson  🌹‏ @WilliamOckhamTx Apr 27
      Replying to @Pinboard @pedroreys and

      Dude, gaslighting is denying reality in an attempt to make someone feel crazy. When you make claims about people you don’t know (asserting that no one who works at Basecamp is marginalized), denying their reality, it sure as hell sounds like gaslighting.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
      Replying to @WilliamOckhamTx @pedroreys and

      I'm not denying reality, but disputing the characterization of people who work at a boutique Chicago tech company, whatever their background, as being on the margins of society. That seems fairly clear-cut to me.

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        1. Pedro Reys‏ @pedroreys Apr 27
          Replying to @Pinboard @WilliamOckhamTx and

          To avoid talking over each other, this is the definition of “marginalized group” I’m referring to.pic.twitter.com/q5B18Y98e6

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        1. Olivier Simard-Casanova  🏳️‍🌈 🇫🇷‏ @simardcasanova Apr 27
          Replying to @Pinboard @WilliamOckhamTx and

          Wrong comparison here The issue is not being at the margin "of society", but at the margin of your group of reference - here, your coworkers

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        1. John Cavnar-Johnson  🌹‏ @WilliamOckhamTx Apr 27
          Replying to @Pinboard @pedroreys and

          That it seems clear cut to you is exactly the problem. You don’t understand what is going on because you are not there. I am in the same situation. The difference is that I have had enough life experience to know that it is a mistake to make definitive statements from ignorance

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        2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
          Replying to @mikeindustries @WilliamOckhamTx and

          Okay, but at this point 'marginalized' has become such a catchall word as to convey little meaning. It flattens the life experience of all sorts of people into a generic category. In practical terms, it now means little more than "favored in the current social justice hierarchy"

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