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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27

      The work culture at rich tech companies (people read something upsetting in the news and want to discuss and 'process' it on company time) is so alien from most people's experience of work that it makes me despair for ever finding common ground with the actual working class

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    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27

      I remember an early Tech Solidarity meeting where a number of electricians joined us to talk about organizing. "What do you guys want?" they asked. The tech workers had no clear answer. "Well, a lot of us were getting electrocuted, so we started a union" the electricians said.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27

      High-end tech jobs are like college that never ends. People want their dean of students and codes of conduct and for everything to be ultimately fair and properly adjudicated by the administrators. It makes the workforce extraordinarily passive, as students ultimately are

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        1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 28

          The tension between what US tech workplace activists say they want (diversity and inclusion) and their demands in practice (ideological conformity) is also a strong deterrent to meaningful collective action, something management at the big tech companies has noticed and embraced.

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        2. Ben Jarvis‏ @ronmexicoisreal Apr 27
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          People at tech companies want equal pay, equal hiring opportunity, and equal enablement regardless of race or gender, something tech is absolutely awful at. It's not some big secret what people are asking for.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
          Replying to @ronmexicoisreal

          My experience was that people were all over the map trying to articulate what they wanted, besides nebulous notions of reform and justice. But even taking these three clear demands as given, you have to agree we've been remarkably ineffective at making it happen

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        2. Anton Zadorozhniy‏ @dartov Apr 27
          Replying to @Pinboard

          Such a strike contrast with Russian-speaking high-end tech crowd: there’s a large percentage of right wing minded people, they are not only not against organizing, but they want to strip few protections unions have

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        2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror Apr 27
          Replying to @Pinboard

          this is why tech unions were hard for me to understand. My understanding started with seeing the movie Norma Rae (cotton mill), and the unionization is also to avoid deadly working conditions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45CX8W9peTs …

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        3. Bob Knob‏ @BobKnob2point0 Apr 27
          Replying to @codinghorror @Pinboard

          i think at the very least the game industry and their insane crunch time work requirements is a foreshadowing of what could happen to the rest of the tech industry, and is a good enough reason to want to get ahead of the game and start unionizing now.

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        2. jeremy‏ @jeremycgray Apr 27
          Replying to @Pinboard

          If you work making a todo app that users end up using to try and overthrow a government, you should discuss it with your colleagues! Similarly, I'd hope tradespeople building a torture chamber would have conversations about their final product.

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        3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Apr 27
          Replying to @jeremycgray

          I couldn't agree with you more. But I think those discussions are better done outside official channels

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        2. David Guaraglia‏ @dguaraglia Apr 27
          Replying to @Pinboard

          I don't get it, you are both complaining about them being too politically involved *and* too passive at the same time?

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        3. Renée‏ @ReneeStephen Apr 28
          Replying to @dguaraglia @Pinboard

          Let's untangle: 1. No job lets you be politically active on work time. 2. Most ALSO don't cut workers slack when things are shit. 3. White dudes (so, most mgmt) don't know the diff bt actually political vs existing as non-white-dude trying to make the workplace not suck.

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