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    1. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep and

      Again, we can have a highly theoretical debate on what it means to run as a high-profile woman in a corrupt and unfair world, and the tradeoffs that requires. It's Twitter, after all! Or we could look at the actual ads that campaign run and the money spent vs. money raised

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    2. Charles Arthur‏Verified account @charlesarthur Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @tmcmh

      You recall though that AOC wrote a piece soon after the election dinging all the losing Dems who had failed to (a) have a ground game and (b) buy plenty of ads on FB. She knows where the centre of gravity is.

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    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @charlesarthur @zeynep @tmcmh

      I particularly remember her dinging a guy for losing who in fact won.

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    4. Charles Arthur‏Verified account @charlesarthur Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @tmcmh

      Sure, but the broader point remains: she is clear about where/how modern elections are won.

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    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @charlesarthur @zeynep @tmcmh

      It's worth reading the rebuttals to that theory of victory by Conor Lamb and Elissa Slotkin, who are winning those modern elections in contested seats.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Charles Arthur‏Verified account @charlesarthur Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @tmcmh

      This one from Politico for Slotkin? https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/13/elissa-slotkin-braces-for-a-democratic-civil-war-436301 … grateful for pointer to the Lamb one

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    7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @charlesarthur @zeynep @tmcmh

      Yes, that one. IIRC Lamb was the guy she incorrectly called out by name for losing.

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    8. Charles Arthur‏Verified account @charlesarthur Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @tmcmh

      Slotkin’s smart. Though I wonder how cohesive the GOP will look in two years if it all goes impeachy in a week or so.

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    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @charlesarthur @zeynep @tmcmh

      I wager you a large hard salami of your choice that they will win decisively in 2022

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @charlesarthur @tmcmh

      Sure. "Win" counts the 6 percent advantage they have in the House due to gerrymandering and the Senate which they can win with 20%? They may well "win" both, and look what happens when they don't win even with the massive electoral college advantage they had.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @zeynep @charlesarthur @tmcmh

      Are there any conditions at all under which the Republicans can win an election and it's not unfair or a coup in your eyes, so I can get Charles to buy me a salami?

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 13
          Replying to @Pinboard @charlesarthur @tmcmh

          Yes, of course. Elections have widely-recognized standards, not my made-up rules. I agree they would win *some* even under those standards, but Senate is structurally minority;most of the rest of the country is gerrymandered and voters disenfranchised; plus electoral college.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 13
          Replying to @zeynep @Pinboard and

          For example, we had a Voting Rights Act and it was enforced, obviously partisan gerrymandering struck down and they won the popular vote as well as the electoral college? Choice of hard salami is on its way. (Senate is what it is. Rest is their deliberate choice.)

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        2. David Terrell‏ @dbt Jan 13
          Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep and

          Actual majority/plurality of the popular vote?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Jody Shenn‏ @JodyShenn Jan 13
          Replying to @dbt @Pinboard and

          I think this is a fair measure of who should get a salami. Will be skewed a bit by nature of races, probably in right direction to keep interesting

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        1. Ben Rosengart‏ @fivetonsflax Jan 13
          Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep and

          Speaking only for myself here, I’ll call R victories legitimate when they can win majorities of non-suppressed, non-gerrymandered electorates.

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