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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @tmcmh @AOC

      Obviously, none of those neighbors were being incessantly and incendiarily targeted by a whole political party and the president, trying to define her before she has a chance—the way it happens to so many talented politicians, especially if they are women.

      2 replies 2 retweets 53 likes
    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @zeynep @tmcmh @AOC

      Okay, so let's compare with talented, targeted women who are in the same situation—other members of the Squad. Pramila Jaypal is similarly targeted, and gave $438 to Facebook. Ilhan Omar spent $5348. Ayanna Pressley appears to have spent nothing.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep and

      To make the comparison fair, it would have to include indirect digital spending (by organizations like Middle Seat) that went to FB. I don't have the figures at hand, but they are vastly lower even in aggregate than what AOC spends just on Facebook direct buys.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep and

      It's also revealing to look at the content of the Facebook ads AOC runs. These aren't attempts to carve our an identity in the face of attacks. It's just pitch after pitch after pitch to donate money... money that gets spent on more such ads. It's not even kept for later use!

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @tmcmh @AOC

      I think it's pretty clear that which of the squad has a chance and a future at the national level. As for the content: I've seen them. It's both. She's putting herself out there and building her own name-recognition and her list. It's called ambition, not hypocrisy.

      2 replies 2 retweets 30 likes
    6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @zeynep @tmcmh @AOC

      Nancy Pelosi is the most attacked woman in American politics and spends less than 1/4 on digital ads than AOC gives to Facebook alone. I'm glad you've seen some ads you like, but we can also look at them systematically where the mind-numbing repetition is obvious

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep and

      I get it; it's hard out there for ambitious women and you sympathize. But there's a Facebook spending addiction problem in the AOC campaign that is not doing anyone any good except Zuckerberg

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @tmcmh @AOC

      Nancy Pelosi is at the end of her career, not the beginning. No politician gets there by refusing to use the mandatory tools of the public sphere and no way to be an ambitious politician in the 21st century without lining up Zuckerberg's pockets. That's just reality.

      2 replies 1 retweet 21 likes
    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @zeynep @tmcmh @AOC

      Every politician I name, there will be a reason you find the comparison unsuitable, because the truth is no one in American politics burns money on Facebook as pointlessly as AOC (or her campaign). Immolating money to no purpose is not a mandatory tool of the public sphere (yet)

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. Nathan Woodhull‏ @woodhull Jan 13
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep and

      I love your work @pinboard but sometimes you're exhausting. Multiple people have tried to explain how @AOC is obviously advertising on FB for list acquisition with a longer time horizon that 1 quarter and yet you insist her team is somehow engaged in malpractice.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard Jan 13
      Replying to @woodhull @zeynep and

      Arguing about this fruitfully requires going a little more into the weeds of how the money actually gets spent, and how list building and acquisition is done by people who aren't spending millions on Facebook, so I propose to do that.

      11:32 AM - 13 Jan 2021
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