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    1. John Cavnar-Johnson  🌹‏ @WilliamOckhamTx 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep

      What I am trying to get across to you is that your understanding of what is driving the U. S. political situation is fundamentally out of sync with the main drivers. That means you are underestimating the risks here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @WilliamOckhamTx @Pinboard

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Andrew Solender

      “It’s all words” applies to me, not to legislators, attorney generals or courts—their “words” are how we’re ruled.https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1337470383205855234 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Andrew SolenderVerified account @AndrewSolender
      NEW: Another 20 House Republicans sign onto an amicus brief supporting the Texas lawsuit that seeks to overturn the election – including @GOPLeader. The total is 126; 64% of the House GOP caucus The full list 👇 https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163550/20201211132250339_Texas%20v.%20Pennsylvania%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20126%20Representatives%20--%20corrected.pdf … pic.twitter.com/BfoYGDIHtj
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    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @WilliamOckhamTx

      I get it, three coups before breakfast and another for lunch. But I bet you the formal Electoral College vote on Monday goes on unimpeded and without a fuss, and on through the swearing in and so on

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @WilliamOckhamTx

      You have a very weird definition of "without a fuss."

      2 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
    5. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @WilliamOckhamTx

      The fuss here is political theater targeted at a specific audience. When I go to see a play and someone gets shot in Act IV, my decision about whether to call 911 is going to depend very heavily about whether it takes place on stage or out in the audience.

      7 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @WilliamOckhamTx

      It's not "political theater" to convince 70+ million people that their electoral victory was stolen, their votes nullified, through outright fraud, led by the guy about to be sworn in with the cooperation even of some Republicans.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @Pinboard @WilliamOckhamTx

      Or you have a very strange definition of "political theater."

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @WilliamOckhamTx

      I contend that that's the very essence of political theater. It has no chance of achieving its ostensible aim, but is a orchestrated performance in front of the 45% or whatever it is of American voters who will now believe this in perpetuity, and vote accordingly next time.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @WilliamOckhamTx

      It's not good, or healthy, or Christmas come early to see a big chunk of Congress decide to participate in the 2021 version of birtherism. But let's not treat a cynical political performance as a bona fide attempt to steal an election. That's offensive to real election stealers!

      6 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. "Oy" elk‏ @steel_elk 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @WilliamOckhamTx

      You're making the presumption that this isn't giving the militia types who've dreamed of civil war and overturning the rule by hippies and the NWO some real juice to try and push their agenda. When enough of a nation believes something, it changes history.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @steel_elk @zeynep @WilliamOckhamTx

      I think in that sense it is quite terrible, and the incitement to political violence (whether overt like Trump, or implicit) is real and inexcusable

      1:34 PM - 11 Dec 2020
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        2. "Oy" elk‏ @steel_elk 11 Dec 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard @zeynep @WilliamOckhamTx

          That is exactly the point of what's going on: it's playing to the audience to set them up for radicalization. Whether that's electoral, intimidation of Democrats, terrorism, or whatever-the-frick-else, that's what's happening. obvs a true coup wound't happen w/o mil support.

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