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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Joseph Allen

      I’m baffled by the amount of airplane risk freak out I’m seeing about this single study, which you will see below, is far far from conclusive plus has an unmasked, actively coughing person as suspect. Always read the full paper and the appendix, and think about the denominator.https://twitter.com/j_g_allen/status/1307283792776826881 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Joseph Allen @j_g_allen
      1/ Stay in your seat and remain calm. This report is making the rounds. I read it. (including appendix, which I'm guessing few read, b/c if you did....) https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/11/20-3299_article …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2020

      The paper rests on shaky assumptions and it's pushing the envelope to claim potential transmission on a flight. Okay. Let's suspend disbelief say it happened. Many millions fly every *week*. One pre-masking March incident? Reassuring in context. Headline: wow, surprisingly safe.

      5 replies 14 retweets 134 likes
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2020

      Obviously, there is no place that's absolutely, completely safe from COVID if there are people around, but in reality, the lack of outbreaks in airplanes is quite striking, and quite likely linked to the fact that they aggressively and rapidly filter the air with HEPA filters.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Joseph Allen

      Also, this is a pity. If we had genomic sequencing, we'd have a clear-cut answer. Given the importance of these questions, there really needs to be more resources for such case studies.https://twitter.com/j_g_allen/status/1307283825043660800 …

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      Joseph Allen @j_g_allen
      16/ genomic sequencing would answer this...
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Sep 2020

      Everyone should—obviously—consider their own personal risk factors and if they should travel as risk is never zero. Taking a cab to the airport is always risky! However instead of alarm based on single studies, we need careful consideration of nine months of data & observations.

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    6. Nicholas Weaver‏Verified account @ncweaver 19 Sep 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Risk in travel is always hard. I KNOW the risk of the cab ride from Dulles to downtown DC is greater than a false shoot down of a plane landing at National, yet I still refuse to take a flight landing at National because well, I don’t like missiles pointed at the plane I’m in

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 19 Sep 2020
      Replying to @ncweaver @zeynep

      That risk is offset by the great view

      9:59 AM - 19 Sep 2020
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