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Learning to do web stuff with VB and ColdFusion was good practice for getting mocked for using Perl and PHP later on. Visual Basic especially had a super interesting developer community around it. The languages that are the best on-ramps for beginners get made fun of the most
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I think the greatest insight Larry Wall ever had is that a computer language also includes the community around it. The right community can keep a bad language afloat, or it can be a boat anchor around the neck of the most elegant language, like happened with Lisp
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VB was considered beneath contempt by real programmers for reasons I never understood, but you could hook it in to Word, Excel, Access, and build actual apps that did stuff in half a day.
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Php had API docs with comment sections below each function, before there was stack overflow. Back then the code samples in there where the best thing ever, if you just needed to glue some stuff together. And if at all, Php was only ever used sensibly to glue some stuff together.
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Yeah, I remember those comments—a mix of lifesaving advice and horrible disinformation. Perl programmers had something called Matt's Script Archive, which was a house of horrors (in retrospect) that let you get anything done you wanted
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