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Later I learned that Lisp and functional programming was the ultimate in elegance, but no one had ever seen a Lisp GUI. It was the rotary engine of computer programming— acclaimed as the provably superior design, but no one seemed to ever build a car around it.
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Php had API docs with comment sections below each function, before there was stack overflow. Back then the code samples in there where the best thing ever, if you just needed to glue some stuff together. And if at all, Php was only ever used sensibly to glue some stuff together.
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Yeah, I remember those comments—a mix of lifesaving advice and horrible disinformation. Perl programmers had something called Matt's Script Archive, which was a house of horrors (in retrospect) that let you get anything done you wanted
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willing to bet that's because most people's introduction to vb is fixing or maintaining said apps without having written them in the first place
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At the time it was also kind of a smooth on ramp from writing Excel and Word macros, so you had a lot of people who had no idea how to write anything besides spaghetti code
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Maybe it's just cohort bias but everyone I know who went on to do something useful with a computer either started with or passed through a phase of something beneath "real programmers" like shell script CGIs, VBScript on the server side, FoxPro, whatever did the job.
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My guess is it's the same reason they hate Matlab, R, and Game Maker scripts; they go against lots of intuition built up from other languages. At least that was my big complaint back in high school, when we had to do a final project in VB6 (or game maker)

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That, or possibly the VB-Excel scripts my dad used to show me, whose logic felt primarily oriented around GOTOs...
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First job ran on VB, i was able to easily rework components from the Windows version into ASP webapps.
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I started with VB3, I can answer that one: it was incredibly slow. Inexcusably so. It was easy, yes, and had a top GUI editor but anything besides forms and small calculation was out of quesiton. If you only knew VB, you could not get half of what a real prog lang can do.
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I won't spit on the kids bike with training wheels I learned with, but bringing it for trekking is not reasonnable.
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