Learning to do web stuff with VB and ColdFusion was good practice for getting mocked for using Perl and PHP later on. Visual Basic especially had a super interesting developer community around it. The languages that are the best on-ramps for beginners get made fun of the most
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I think the greatest insight Larry Wall ever had is that a computer language also includes the community around it. The right community can keep a bad language afloat, or it can be a boat anchor around the neck of the most elegant language, like happened with Lisp
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VB was considered beneath contempt by real programmers for reasons I never understood, but you could hook it in to Word, Excel, Access, and build actual apps that did stuff in half a day.
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Later I learned that Lisp and functional programming was the ultimate in elegance, but no one had ever seen a Lisp GUI. It was the rotary engine of computer programming— acclaimed as the provably superior design, but no one seemed to ever build a car around it.
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Fortran with punch cards!
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What do you call the programming language TI-86s used? It was quite a restriction, only having 26 or so variables.
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TI-BASIC!
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Banging my head on keyboard
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ZX Spectrum Basic.
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