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    1. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 17 Feb 2016

      If the US government dictating iPhone encryption design sounds ok to you, ask yourself how you'll feel when China demands the same.

      105 replies 3,852 retweets 3,644 likes
    2. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @matthew_d_green

      The US government already regulates the electrical design of the phone, its chemical composition, whether it can cause cancer in California and so on. I think you have to make an argument about actual harms, not just the China angle.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Pinboard @matthew_d_green

      Concretely, why does it hurt me if my democratically elected government sets encryption policy rather than some rando at Apple (the status quo)? I think the argument can go through, but it requires more effort than just scaring people with regulation.

      5 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 1 Aug 2020
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      Believe it or not, I and others have spent a lot of time writing about why this is bad for information security! The fact that it enables authoritarian governments’ surveillance is just the icing on a shit cake. https://www.schneier.com/academic/paperfiles/paper-keys-under-doormats-CSAIL.pdf …

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    5. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @matthew_d_green @Pinboard

      To give a more concrete example: Apple enables end-to-end encrypted backups, but has failed to deploy this feature for standard iCloud backup data because governments told them not to. This has real consequences for security.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-51207744 …

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    6. Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @matthew_d_green

      This kind of speaks to my point of Apple acting a lot like a government in its own right.

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    7. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 1 Aug 2020
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      The US government has the ability to legislate (limits on) Apple’s encryption capabilities anytime they want. They can also legislate minimum feature requirements on devices. Within those sensible bounds, Apple should have latitude.

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    8. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @matthew_d_green @Pinboard

      Our government currently allows encrypted backup by law, but pressures companies not to deploy it by policy. That seems problematic. China will likely make even stronger demands as Apple gets deeply in bed with them.

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      Pinboard‏ @Pinboard 1 Aug 2020
      Replying to @matthew_d_green

      Yeah, it's the Chinese demands, Apple's unique vulnerability to them, and its established record of caving that make me distrust them about as much as the Feds. That's why I found the framing odd. I've read and enjoyed the interesting things you write on this topic.

      12:09 PM - 1 Aug 2020
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        2. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @Pinboard

          The only way to fight the rise of Chinese tech influence, in the end, is to have a national security policy that actually requires our devices to embed strong and verifiable security features. Instead our government is busy demanding that we unilaterally disarm.

          2 replies 5 retweets 13 likes
        3. Martin Nyx Brain‏ @ciphernyx 1 Aug 2020
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @Pinboard

          So you are saying that people should pursade the NRA that encryption really is munitions after all? 😉

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